Zimmerman Verdict

[OJsDad]

I'm really confused as to why the left is so worked up over this whole thing.  First, if Zimmerman was black and Martin Hispanic, they would be screaming to free him instead of trying to lynch him.  Second, with neither any solid evidence to convict him of murder or manslaughter, or Zimmerman being a racist, they cannot seem to let it go.  It's like they know they jumped into this too quickly and now they have to come away with something or they lose face.  It really makes one wonder who the real racists are. 

I think this quote from Jasmine Rand, a Martin family attorney sums up the lefts position; 

I have a greater duty beyond being an attorney, and that's to be a social engineer

.  They don't like the outcome and now they want to change it.  If this was the King beatings in LA I could understand, but this just makes me scratch my head.  To say that 6 non-black women couldn't possible get it right, is down right insulting.

[LongBlade]

A small and largely unnoticed division of DoJ went down to Sanford, FL last year and actually helped orchestrate some of the protests.

They also seem to have been involved in a church meeting which organized a series of demands, not the least of which was to force the resignation of the police chief after his department concluded there was no there there.

Not a lot of people, not a lot of visibility, but apparently the right help when it was needed.

A division of the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) was deployed to Sanford, Florida in 2012 to provide assistance for anti-George Zimmerman protests, including a rally headlined by activist Al Sharpton, according to newly released documents.

The Community Relations Service (CRS), a unit of DOJ, reported expenses related to its deployment in Sanford to help manage protests between March and April 2012, according to documents obtained by the watchdog group Judicial Watch.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/10/doj-provided-security-for-anti-zimmerman-protests/#ixzz2ZGEGEJsj

[Steelgrave]

I'm really confused as to why the left is so worked up over this whole thing.  First, if Zimmerman was black and Martin Hispanic, they would be screaming to free him instead of trying to lynch him.  Second, with neither any solid evidence to convict him of murder or manslaughter, or Zimmerman being a racist, they cannot seem to let it go.  It's like they know they jumped into this too quickly and now they have to come away with something or they lose face.  It really makes one wonder who the real racists are. 

I think this quote from Jasmine Rand, a Martin family attorney sums up the lefts position; 

I have a greater duty beyond being an attorney, and that's to be a social engineer

.  They don't like the outcome and now they want to change it.  If this was the King beatings in LA I could understand, but this just makes me scratch my head.  To say that 6 non-black women couldn't possible get it right, is down right insulting.

You have to remember that the folks with a vested interest in racial tension profit from it, either in votes or in money. And the media couldn't be any more two-faced or less biased if we were in a State controlled country.

Race, politics and the Zimmerman trial http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323394504578608182550247030.html

http://crosscut.com/2013/07/15/media/115568/john-carlson-trayvon-martin/

[LongBlade]

As Obama and Holder attempt to move forward on the discussion of "stand your ground" laws, it's worth noting that, at least in Florida, African-Americans benefit overwhelmingly from its use.

African Americans benefit from Florida's "Stand Your Ground" self-defense law at a rate far out of proportion to their presence in the state's population, despite an assertion by Attorney General Eric Holder that repealing "Stand Your Ground" would help African Americans.

Black Floridians have made about a third of the state's total "Stand Your Ground" claims in homicide cases, a rate nearly double the black percentage of Florida's population. The majority of those claims have been successful, a success rate that exceeds that for Florida whites.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/16/blacks-benefit-from-florida-stand-your-ground-law-at-disproportionate-rate/#ixzz2ZJJTJTBp

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

I saw more of this case live than I wanted - my dad had it on at his place as entertainment.

The Defense argued that what is missing in the media is what was said immediately after Zimmerman said he was following Martin. The cops said "don't do that." Usually the media cuts it off there. What followed is important. Zimmerman then said "OK (I won't follow). I'll meet you back at 123...wait, he could be listening and I don't want to give my apartment number. I'll meet you at the mailboxes."

(I paraphrased the above but that's the essence)

So Zimmerman then did try to retreat. Four minutes elapsed, during which time Martin jumped Zimmerman. This is important as it showed that, contrary to the media and prosecution's story, Zimmerman *did* break off pursuit.

Saying he would back off is not the same as actually backing off. What was the location of the fight? Close to the mailboxes or somewhere else where Zimmerman tied to discreetly keep in visual contact?

I liked Brant's post above. Then I liked JH's more. The statement of the extreme lawlessness in the area changes the whole situation of what is acceptable for a "wannabe cop" in a volunteer role to do. Given the environment this type of confrontation was bound to happen. Maybe even be common.

Obama's statement that it could have been him as a young man is profoundly stupid. I doubt he would have assaulted a guy with a gun. Every opportunity he ignores the case to take the "Black" side. He makes it clear he represents black America first, second and third. Everyone else take a number.

[LongBlade]

There is a profound divide between how many blacks see this case and how the rest of the nation sees it.

It is not helped by a president who doesn't back law and order. There was a trial and a verdict. There was an FBI investigation a year ago that found no evidence of racism - to the contrary, Zimmerman had good relations with many of his black neighbors.

For a guy who had an excellent opportunity to help further heal racial tensions, Obama failed to take advantage of those opportunities. Instead he leaves black people with the impression that they are victims, rather than equal citizens. It's a shame.

It's difficult to know his motivation. For a guy so politically cynical to espouse the philosophy of "never letting a crisis go to waste" it's difficult to watch his actions as anything less than an opportunity to shore up his base for the midterm elections.

[jejo68]

Zimmermans really screwed.
he gets hung out to dry now for Stepping out of his car.
Had he not done so and trayvon had indeed been a buglar or god forbid had hurt someone during a break in, then zimmerman would also have been hung out to dry if he had just drove away. its a Loose, Loose situation.
It really annoys me to see all those organisation and even the president trying to gain some political influence over this case. none of them cares anything about either of the persons involved, they just want to push some political agenda.

[LongBlade]

A small and largely unnoticed division of DoJ went down to Sanford, FL last year and actually helped orchestrate some of the protests.

They also seem to have been involved in a church meeting which organized a series of demands, not the least of which was to force the resignation of the police chief after his department concluded there was no there there.

Not a lot of people, not a lot of visibility, but apparently the right help when it was needed.

A division of the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) was deployed to Sanford, Florida in 2012 to provide assistance for anti-George Zimmerman protests, including a rally headlined by activist Al Sharpton, according to newly released documents.

The Community Relations Service (CRS), a unit of DOJ, reported expenses related to its deployment in Sanford to help manage protests between March and April 2012, according to documents obtained by the watchdog group Judicial Watch.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/10/doj-provided-security-for-anti-zimmerman-protests/#ixzz2ZGEGEJsj

More information regarding the CRS.

Maybe it's time to dismantle the agency?

"At CRS headquarters, we (meaning I) regularly had to warn or take corrective action against career employees for acting as advocates instead of mediators," Ondray Harris, the former director of the DOJ's Community Relations Service (CRS), told The Daily Caller. CRS was the unit deployed to Sanford in 2012 to oversee anti-Zimmerman protests.

"Some CRS employees come to the Agency with anti-law enforcement or anti- what they would call the 'white establishment' [attitudes]" added Harris, an African American who joined CRS during the administration of George W. Bush in 2007 and left in 2010.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/21/former-doj-official-civil-rights-unit-sent-to-mediate-anti-zimmerman-protests-has-history-of-advocacy/#ixzz2Zmb6L4Xz

[Martok]

Hoo boy. 

>:(

[W8taminute]

There is a profound divide between how many blacks see this case and how the rest of the nation sees it.

It is not helped by a president who doesn't back law and order. There was a trial and a verdict. There was an FBI investigation a year ago that found no evidence of racism - to the contrary, Zimmerman had good relations with many of his black neighbors.

For a guy who had an excellent opportunity to help further heal racial tensions, Obama failed to take advantage of those opportunities. Instead he leaves black people with the impression that they are victims, rather than equal citizens. It's a shame.

It's difficult to know his motivation. For a guy so politically cynical to espouse the philosophy of "never letting a crisis go to waste" it's difficult to watch his actions as anything less than an opportunity to shore up his base for the midterm elections.

QFT and +1

[LongBlade]

The fallout continues.

A weekend robbery in a racially diverse neighborhood of Washington may have been a hate crime, police said.

"This is for Trayvon Martin," one of the three black men told a white man as they approached him early Saturday, according to Washington Metropolitan Police Officer Anthony Clay.

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/28/us/dc-robbery-hate-crime/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

[em2nought]

Time to start keeping the Mossberg 590 at the ready in the office.  ;)  Guess I'd be in trouble since I get called a racist quite frequently at Octopus Overlords.

...but I'm em2nought over there.  They don't call the other Hentzau fellow over there a racist.  Just wanted to make sure that his name isn't slurred.

[Martok]

The fallout continues.

A weekend robbery in a racially diverse neighborhood of Washington may have been a hate crime, police said.

"This is for Trayvon Martin," one of the three black men told a white man as they approached him early Saturday, according to Washington Metropolitan Police Officer Anthony Clay.

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/28/us/dc-robbery-hate-crime/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Dammit.  I had a feeling something like this might happen, but I was really hoping I'd be proven wrong. 

[bayonetbrant]

George Zimmerman Tracks Down Joseph Kony, Executes Him

GULU, UGANDA — Two weeks after George Zimmerman was found not guilty in the murder of Trayvon Martin, the former neighborhood watch captain has turned up in Uganda after allegedly gunning down a "suspicious-looking" African warlord, sources confirmed today.

"Between killing a kid and saving a family, I was getting a lot of press," confessed Zimmerman. "No one gives a shit about Africa except Bono and hipsters. I figured I'd be able to lay low."

While out for a stroll on Sunday evening, Zimmerman spotted Joseph Kony, the rebel leader of the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) that has terrorized the citizens of Uganda for more than 25 years. The group garnered national attention when a bunch of white college students called for Kony's arrest by volunteering the U.S. military for the job through a sweet film with chill music.

"Look, I don't go looking for trouble," Zimmerman explained. "But there were some people walking around the village who looked suspicious. I was forced to take a stand."

A Special Forces Captain whose name is being withheld for security reasons explained things differently.

"I swear every other day I'd have this guy running into my hooch yelling about how somebody looked suspicious. Usually, it was just some villager walking home. Guy is a total asshole."

Despite the captain's remarks, Zimmerman's suspicions led him straight to Kony.

"I knew it was him," Zimmerman told reporters. "He looked really suspicious you know? He was just walking around, wearing a camouflage hoodie, raping women and looking into huts for children he could enslave."

Still, some say Zimmerman was profiling Kony, especially since the behavior he described is common in Africa. "Everyone does that here," explained Moses Hersi, a local villager. "It's practically the national pastime."

"So, I see Zimmerman running at me like a maniac," the Special Forces captain said. "He's yelling about how he's 'got this fucking punk'. We asked him to wait till we could assess the situation but he just took off running."

When Special Forces arrived, Zimmerman was calmly standing over Kony's lifeless body. Asked what had happened, Zimmerman said, "Look every action I took was in direct compliance with Uganda's 'Stand Your Ground Laws'. I calmly pulled my sidearm, and after putting Kony on his knees. I shot him in the head. I was well within my rights."

Back at the White House, President Obama reflected on the tragedy.

"You know, had I grown up in Kenya instead of Hawaii, which is totally where I grew up by the way, this could have been me," Obama said. "35 years ago, I could have been kidnapped by Joseph Kony — or I could have been Joseph Kony, kidnapping children."

In Africa, the backlash from the shooting has spread throughout the region. Across the Democratic Republic of the Congo, hundreds of 30-year-old men have been seen wearing shirts reading "We are all Joseph Kony."

Once again, the resulting unrest has forced Zimmerman to move. And a "Justice For Kony" movement has sprung up among confused American college activists who are unsure of how to handle the news of Kony's murder.

At press time, George Zimmerman once again came out of hiding as he saved a family of four when their rickshaw overturned in southern Indonesia. He was unavailable for comment.

[LongBlade]

How politically incorrect is it to laugh out loud at that?

Because if it isn't PC to laugh, I totally found that without humor.