Strategic Command 3 coming from Matrixgames, not Battlefront...

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Quote from: smittyohio on July 23, 2013, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: agathosdaimon on July 23, 2013, 05:33:47 AM
Quote from: Anguille on July 23, 2013, 03:42:04 AM
Some nice new games coming up...

Why should i get SC3 if i play Strategic War in Europe, Time of Fury and Strategic Command: Europe Theater (GOG)?

What is the problem with Battlefront DRM? I have never bought anything from them so am curious to know

You only get a limited number of initial activations, say 5, and then a new one every year.  You can't unlicensed it before making a hardware change or something else what would invalidate the current license, so you could burn through them if you tinker much with your machine.  That said, I've never heard of a legit customer that got shut out of their games.  Battlefront support will generally help them out.  That said, if they decide you're a pirate, you're screwed.

Battlefront can go to the devil. I bought SC2 from them in a bundle pack. While it did not have the idiotic DRM I can't get any updates. I have tried multiple times to get some help from support and I am roundly ignored. I understand that there is an arguement that if you buy the cheepo bundle pack you should be happy and go away but they do not put the "lack of support" in any sort of written warning before you buy the game.

GO MATRIX!
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xwormwood

Hi Forum members, my name is Claus, i live in Bremen / Germany and this is my first post here.

And i'm glad that it is about SC3.

I play SC since SC1, and i 've never had any issues with the DRM, no matter which one Battlefront used. Even though i love distributer like GOG, where no game has DRM, i have no problems to accept humane ones, like those used for the SC games. Having said that, i should add that i'm a beta tester since SC Global Conflict.

But that is not why i post here.

I just wanted to confirm that the screenshots you saw are from a very, VERY early alpha version. From what i know the only sure thing you can learn from them is that SC3 will return to hexes (hooray!), and SC3 will be released some time in the future, published from Matrix Games instead of Battlefront.

Having said that, i can provied a link where you can see some more pictures, even one without 3D units, just as an example what SC3 could look like as well:

http://www.gamersglobal.de/galerie/73493

Bill Runacre

Thanks for posting the links Xwormwood, and just to confirm to everyone that those screenshots really are very early versions. But already you can see that we are planning more than one way of representing the units.

There'll be much more to come too, it'll be much more than just SC2 with hexes!  :)
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Quote from: Bill101 on July 23, 2013, 02:46:06 PM
Thanks for posting the links Xwormwood, and just to confirm to everyone that those screenshots really are very early versions. But already you can see that we are planning more than one way of representing the units.

There'll be much more to come too, it'll be much more than just SC2 with hexes!  :)

Thanks, Bill. I can't wait to see what emerges :)
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Quote from: smittyohio on July 23, 2013, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: agathosdaimon on July 23, 2013, 05:33:47 AM
Quote from: Anguille on July 23, 2013, 03:42:04 AM
Some nice new games coming up...

Why should i get SC3 if i play Strategic War in Europe, Time of Fury and Strategic Command: Europe Theater (GOG)?

What is the problem with Battlefront DRM? I have never bought anything from them so am curious to know

You only get a limited number of initial activations, say 5, and then a new one every year.  You can't unlicensed it before making a hardware change or something else what would invalidate the current license, so you could burn through them if you tinker much with your machine.  That said, I've never heard of a legit customer that got shut out of their games.  Battlefront support will generally help them out.  That said, if they decide you're a pirate, you're screwed.
+1. I agree with Smitty, save to say that I've never had a problem with Battlefront support. Whenever I've screwed up an activation, they've helped out. As Smitty says you get an additional activation each year, but support are very reasonable if they think you're genuine.
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I've never had problems with Battlefront and have a good working relationship with them and Hubert (I've boosted him alot) I'd still like to know why Fury switched.
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xwormwood

I guess we're all kind of curious about this.

I presume that it has to do somehting with how much (or little) Battlefront was able or willing to promote SC3, and / or to help with iOS conversions.

If i read correctly, than Slitherine earns pretty, pretty well with their iOS conversions, and Slitherine apprears to be some kind of pioneer when it comes to introduce high quality wargames into the mobile / Apple world.

So it is probably only simple math, because I guess that is where i would move too if Iwould have the chance to negotiate my nearer future (if i would be in Huberts shoes).


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Quote from: Bismarck on July 24, 2013, 12:35:41 PM
I've never had problems with Battlefront and have a good working relationship with them and Hubert (I've boosted him alot) I'd still like to know why Fury switched.
+1. I'm curious too.
The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own. Aldous Huxley

Foul Temptress! (Mirth replying to Gus) ;)

On a good day, our legislature has the prestige of a drunk urinating on a wall at 4am and getting most of it on his shoe. On a good day  ::) Steelgrave

It's kind of silly to investigate whether or not a Clinton is lying. That's sort of like investigating why the sky is blue. Banzai_Cat

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SgtRock

I guess this will spell the end of the Matrix/Slitherine Commander Series, which was a direct competitor to the SC. It sure looks like a big win for Hubert Cater, his main competitor goes away and his software is no longer bundled with a bad DRM/license system.



Anguille

Quote from: SgtRock on July 25, 2013, 11:26:25 AM
I guess this will spell the end of the Matrix/Slitherine Commander Series, which was a direct competitor to the SC. It sure looks like a big win for Hubert Cater, his main competitor goes away and his software is no longer bundled with a bad DRM/license system.

Don't think so. The Lordz has worked hard on the engine and they said they had plans for other games with the new engine.

Cheers

SgtRock

I though Hubert Cater was going to be working with Lordz?