Panama Canal Expansion

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

and whos troops are they using?

I would guess their own landed immigrants, Venezuelans, Colombians, El Salvadorans, drug barons...

[GDS_Starfury]

my dad was stationed in the Canal Zone during the late 60's.  what held true then still holds true today.  you dont need to control the country, you just need to control the canal.

[Windigo]

according to Windy the vaunted Chinese Navy will come to save the day.   ::)

don't put words in my mouth or attribute ideas to me that are not true.... thats a bullshit move and you know it

[Windigo]

my dad was stationed in the Canal Zone during the late 60's.  what held true then still holds true today.  you dont need to control the country, you just need to control the canal.

and here comes the chinese with a new canal, new buds in venezuala and if I am attributing right, growing numbers of pals in Brazil and Argentina and Chile


do you know whats going on in africa right now???? its starting in central and south america

[GDS_Starfury]

you really dont understand the Monroe Doctrine do you?

don't put words in my mouth or attribute ideas to me that are not true.... thats a bullshit move and you know it

you said it was being done to act as a trip wire.  that only works in international politics if you can back up your trap.  ergo they'll need a military presence or the ability to project force.  the Chines can do neither nor will they be able to do either for decades.  stick to fossils, this geopolitical military stuff is out of your league.

[Windigo]

you really dont understand the Monroe Doctrine do you?

don't put words in my mouth or attribute ideas to me that are not true.... thats a bullshit move and you know it

you said it was being done to act as a trip wire.  that only works in international politics if you can back up your trap.  ergo they'll need a military presence or the ability to project force.  the Chines can do neither nor will they be able to do either for decades.  stick to fossils, this geopolitical military stuff is out of your league.

and I said I disagree with that premise

geopolitics is not solely military, in fact its largely economics

[LongBlade]

according to Windy the vaunted Chinese Navy will come to save the day.   ::)

According to Windy...

That could be a title of a book.

A comic book.

[GDS_Starfury]

geopolitics is not solely military, in fact its largely economics

so you think the real Chinese economy is all sunshine and roses?

[GDS_Starfury]

do you know whats going on in africa right now???? its starting in central and south america

yeah, mineral rights for construction projects.  have you bothered yourself to ask why China needs to go so far abroad to get certain trace elements.

[Windigo]

geopolitics is not solely military, in fact its largely economics

so you think the real Chinese economy is all sunshine and roses?

didn't say that did I? it just has to stay at double the US rate ... a fairly easy task IMO

[Windigo]

do you know whats going on in africa right now???? its starting in central and south america

yeah, mineral rights for construction projects.  have you bothered yourself to ask why China needs to go so far abroad to get certain trace elements.

same reason the the rest of us do

[GDS_Starfury]

geopolitics is not solely military, in fact its largely economics

so you think the real Chinese economy is all sunshine and roses?

didn't say that did I? it just has to stay at double the US rate ... a fairly easy task IMO

I didnt say you said it, I asked you a question.  hence the question mark.
and no the Chinese economy isnt staying at double the US rate nor can it.  its artificially propped up by bullshit and lies.  if it was traded at its actual worth the Chinese economy would collapse.

[LongBlade]

geopolitics is not solely military, in fact its largely economics

so you think the real Chinese economy is all sunshine and roses?

didn't say that did I? it just has to stay at double the US rate ... a fairly easy task IMO

I didnt say you said it, I asked you a question.  hence the question mark.

Don't feel bad. Those are the games he plays when he's losing the argument.

[Windigo]

geopolitics is not solely military, in fact its largely economics

so you think the real Chinese economy is all sunshine and roses?

didn't say that did I? it just has to stay at double the US rate ... a fairly easy task IMO

I didnt say you said it, I asked you a question.  hence the question mark.
and no the Chinese economy isnt staying at double the US rate nor can it.  its artificially propped up by bullshit and lies.  if it was traded at its actual worth the Chinese economy would collapse.

the currency is worth what people are willing to pay for it... people are still willing to pay for it

and china's growth is still pretty much locked in,

it built up economicly on its export market, without much internal economic development... now thats taking off

[bayonetbrant]

thats a bullshit move and you know it

stick to fossils, this geopolitical military stuff is out of your league.

Hey chil'rens!  Calm down.  Do some situps.  Ogle the babes on the lingerie threads.  Throw darts at your Curtis dartboards.  Either way, take a few deep breaths and then come back and have a discussion, not a shouting match.

Keep it up and we'll send you back to WGer ;)

{/mod hat off}