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Started by Asid, March 01, 2014, 10:56:49 PM

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Asid

Dear grogs

I started this thread in order to get some real feedback about Battlefronts DRM and not argue the pro's and con's of DRM or protection in general.

There seems to be some confusion as to what you can and cannot do with installs, activations, upgrades,... Etc.

Please do not use this thread for any personal attacks or Battlefront bashing. Stick to the topic about their DRM please

Regards
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Just a small note about 'What happens when BFC go under?'
I have seen posts on more than one occasion by the devs that if it comes that far, people will get a solution. Perhaps a drm free exe.
I wouldn't worry about that part. You are missing out on a great series of games NOW if you're afraid for what might happen LATER.
Besides , are you likely playing the game still after years with all this gaming ADD around here? ;) Just sayin'
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Quote from: Asid on March 05, 2014, 11:15:26 PM
Dear grogs

I started this thread in order to get some real feedback about Battlefronts DRM and not argue the pro's and con's of DRM or protection in general.

There seems to be some confusion as to what you can and cannot do with installs, activations, upgrades,... Etc.

Please do not use this thread for any personal attacks or Battlefront bashing. Stick to the topic about their DRM please

Regards

with all due respect - the best place youre going to get the correct answers to those questions are at the battlefront forums

Asid

Quote from: undercovergeek on March 06, 2014, 02:55:22 AM

with all due respect - the best place youre going to get the correct answers to those questions are at the battlefront forums

I understand but i thought i might get an unbiased opinion/view here.
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Quote from: Asid on March 06, 2014, 03:13:51 AM
Quote from: undercovergeek on March 06, 2014, 02:55:22 AM

with all due respect - the best place youre going to get the correct answers to those questions are at the battlefront forums

I understand but i thought i might get an unbiased opinion/view here.

Ironically the BF forums might be the most unbiased ones you'll find, plus there are people who, you know, actually know what they're talking about, as opposed to opinionated speculation

This discussion will always dissolve into ' that didn't happen to me so it's your problem' or ' it happens to everyone and BF are wankers' and the only place that doesn't happen us BF where people are paid to help you

RyanE

The BFC tech forums are some of the best around.  No flame wars and the tech support guy is pretty quick to respond.

Greybriar

Quote from: undercovergeek on March 06, 2014, 03:22:55 AM

....Ironically the BF forums might be the most unbiased ones you'll find, plus there are people who, you know, actually know what they're talking about, as opposed to opinionated speculation....

LOL There's nothing like telling it like it is!  ;D
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Quote from: Asid on March 06, 2014, 03:13:51 AM
Quote from: undercovergeek on March 06, 2014, 02:55:22 AM

with all due respect - the best place youre going to get the correct answers to those questions are at the battlefront forums

I understand but i thought i might get an unbiased opinion/view here.

LOL...unbiased opinion is an oxymoron. That's what makes them opinions, they are biased. Battlefront threads always bring out the deepest of gamer passions, both pro and con.

Grim.Reaper

Quote from: Rayfer on March 06, 2014, 03:59:05 PM
Quote from: Asid on March 06, 2014, 03:13:51 AM
Quote from: undercovergeek on March 06, 2014, 02:55:22 AM

with all due respect - the best place youre going to get the correct answers to those questions are at the battlefront forums

I understand but i thought i might get an unbiased opinion/view here.

LOL...unbiased opinion is an oxymoron. That's what makes them opinions, they are biased. Battlefront threads always bring out the deepest of gamer passions, both pro and con.

I tried to say that at the start about the passion and debate that would happen:)

Asid

Quote from: Grim.Reaper on March 06, 2014, 06:37:54 PM

I tried to say that at the start about the passion and debate that would happen:)

But surely a forum is for discussion??????
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Quote from: Asid on March 06, 2014, 06:53:03 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on March 06, 2014, 06:37:54 PM

I tried to say that at the start about the passion and debate that would happen:)

But surely a forum is for discussion??????

In my opinion and only my opinion, a topic that has been beat to death in the past with the same outcome as predicted....there is no right answer.  As I have said many times, nobody is going to debate whether the DRM is good or bad, it is pretty much a given it stinks.  Therefore, in my opinion does not leave much to discuss.  You either live with it and play the game or you don't live with it and don't play the game.

Not sure what else to discuss....

Bletchley_Geek

Quote from: Asid on March 05, 2014, 11:15:26 PM
There seems to be some confusion as to what you can and cannot do with installs, activations, upgrades,... Etc.

That's not really a topic for discussion, I think, is a topic for writing an e-mail to their helpdesk like this:

QuoteDear Battlefront.com,

I am interested in purchasing your one or more of your products, but I'm confused regarding
the nature of the DRM software you use, and what I can and cannot do with installs, activations,
upgrades, known issues, etc.

I'd appreciate some pointers to relevant sites that spell out clearly the above.

Looking forward to hearing from you,

<Your real name here>

At least, that's what I'd have done if I were you  :)

Boggit

Quote from: Grim.Reaper on March 02, 2014, 11:44:08 AM
Quote from: Asid on March 02, 2014, 04:56:57 AM
From a personal point of view i just feel that this type of DRM is very restrictive. It's great until something goes wrong and you have to contact support and try and get them (convince them?) that you have done nothing malicious.... :o

For me at least it's definitely something to think about.

I don't think you will get any arguments from anyone who feels this DRM scheme is good....I think everyone would prefer something else to be used besides your computer configuration.....but if it comes down to playing the game, each person just needs to decide if they can live with it or not.  For some people it could certainly be bad enough for them not to purchase the game and that is perfectly acceptable.
FWIW I have screwed up installations in the past, uninstalled, reinstalled etc. At one point I did run out of activations on the Commonwelath bundle IIRC. I contacted BF Support, and I got my activations reset that same working day, and was playing later on that same day. Excellent support service as far as I am concerned. Maybe I was lucky, maybe not? I hate DRM with a passion, but they did make it a painless experience for me, so I can live with it. I'll give a huge +1 to everything Grim Reaper has said!
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Asid

Quote from: Boggit on March 06, 2014, 10:12:11 PM

FWIW I have screwed up installations in the past, uninstalled, reinstalled etc. At one point I did run out of activations on the Commonwelath bundle IIRC. I contacted BF Support, and I got my activations reset that same working day, and was playing later on that same day. Excellent support service as far as I am concerned. Maybe I was lucky, maybe not? I hate DRM with a passion, but they did make it a painless experience for me, so I can live with it. I'll give a huge +1 to everything Grim Reaper has said!

Thanks Boggit. This is the kind of info that i'm looking for  :)
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Coincidentally, this showed up on grogheads today...

http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=9480.0

2nd post.  SC also uses the BFC DRM system.