Pdox cancels East vs. West

[tgb]

I get the impression that these guys were part of the EvW development team but bailed at some point. That still doesn't guarantee they'll get their hands on the code legitimately.

[sandman2575]

A reasonable estimation is that we will require around 480.000,- USD for all technology, manpower, licences and development expenses to build a game from scratch.

A more econmoic alternative is Option B, where we will buy 2 development licences to access Europa (HoI2) and Clausewitz (HoI3) engines. We will then salvage parts that are left over from the East vs. West development and integrate what we deem to have worth into our game.

So, they intend to buy not one but two licenses from Paradox, assuming they will sell them, and then will salvage what they want from East vs. West in order to produce a new game?  Sounds like a pretty shaky foundation to raise half a mil on, to say the least.

[undercovergeek]

i dont think pdox will let anyone near the clausewitz engine - thats one of the reasons they havent released the half finished game to the public to finish

[endfire79]

Im still hopeful about Road to Moscow being released.  ???

What ever happened to that?

[jomni]

GMT also cancels Twilight Struggle for PC.

[mikeck]

Such a shame. The HOI game base would have been perfect for a 1950's US v USSR game. I wonder if they just don't think it would sell. As much as I bitch about all of the WW2 games (like upcoming HOI4), I am the minority and that war makes gaming companies money.

Not a lot of Cold War historians I suppose

[GDS_Starfury]

Im still hopeful about Road to Moscow being released.  ???

What ever happened to that?

evidently it went on a date with my PitF review.    ::)

[Staggerwing]

Im still hopeful about Road to Moscow being released.  ???

What ever happened to that?

evidently it went on a date with my PitF review.    ::)

In a '76 Mercury Bobcat at the bottom of a ravine below a sharp roadway bend with a missing length of guard rail?

[jomni]

There's a fundamental problem with simulating a war that no one really wants to start but almost started but didn't.

Doing what-if battles are easy. Doing the geopolitical side right is hard. Only a few have succeeded.

[sandman2575]

There's a fundamental problem with simulating a war that no one really wants to start but almost started but didn't.

Doing what-if battles are easy. Doing the geopolitical side right is hard. Only a few have succeeded.

^this

Watching the EvW development the last year or so, this was always in the back of my mind.  Not "how will they simulate proxy wars, or Vietnam etc." -- that should be relatively easy -- but "how will they pull off an interesting simulation of the geopolitics, the arms race, intelligence gathering" -- all the stuff just short of a shooting war that was the essence of the Cold War.  Because if the game just routinely devolved into open war between NATO / USSR, that wouldn't be a very interesting simulation. The game would have to find a way to make the incentive 'not' to go to war really high, and find a way to make 'not' going to war actually more fun than going to war, which should be seen as a strategic failure.  So I was always wondering how they would square the circle of creating a game for wargamers where the point was fundamentally to avoid open conflict...  Guess we'll never really find out now.

[tgb]

[sandman2575]

 :)

Of course, the BiLogic crew really should have gotten their hands on this baby -- would have made their programming task so much simpler:

[steve58]

...a response from BL-Logic about "Project Kennedy".  No surprises here.

"It's a fraud and they can't salvage parts of East vs West not even a single byte."

[Greybriar]

This:

....Project Kennedy is setup as flexible:

Flexible Funding
This campaign will receive all funds raised even if it does not reach its goal. Funding duration: March 06, 2014 - May 05, 2014 (11:59pm PT).

Plus this:

...a response from BL-Logic about "Project Kennedy".  No surprises here.

"It's a fraud and they can't salvage parts of East vs West not even a single byte."

Make Project Kennedy something to stay the hell away from.

[bobarossa]

Balance of Power.  I saw that screen all too many times.