Age of Wonders III coming later this year!

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Had about 2 hours with it this afternoon, and that doesnt happen often, i love my games but i dont usually have the attention span unless im pulled in - its a blast, building the spell deck and learning the nuances of the TBS battle map

Lost my capital to spiders and had to fight back in, founded a town by the cave entrance so you dont go up top or down below with out my permission, and got my first mission from some friendlies

mikeck

Is there a tutorial or is the campaign a tutorial thing where it gets progressively more difficult?
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undercovergeek

There are 2 campaigns, the elven one is the tutorial one

Jarhead0331

Hmmmm...I don't see what all the raving is about. It's a pleasant game for sure with a 'just one more turn' quality, but it's really not what I was expecting, especially with all of the positive feedback. It still feels pretty simple to me. Maybe the tutorial campaign is limited?



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Bletchley_Geek

Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 01, 2014, 09:41:04 PM
Hmmmm...I don't see what all the raving is about. It's a pleasant game for sure with a 'just one more turn' quality, but it's really not what I was expecting, especially with all of the positive feedback. It still feels pretty simple to me. Maybe the tutorial campaign is limited?

I am standing there as well and I think I'll be passing on it, Jarhead. Doesn't seem to much different from the original Age of Wonders (which was probably a better game than any Heroes of Might & Magic, but not quite close to Master of Magic). It's much less deep than Fallen Enchantress vanilla, let alone the expansions. But AoW one doesn't seem to have the pacing problems I've observed in FE since forever.

It does indeed look good, also looks like it plays smooth and there's a fair bit of nostalgia value in it. It's probably going to be a smash hit.

Kushan

Quote from: Bletchley_Geek on April 01, 2014, 10:41:55 PM
It's much less deep than Fallen Enchantress vanilla, let alone the expansions. But AoW one doesn't seem to have the pacing problems I've observed in FE since forever.

In what way is it not as deep? Based off my first impression it seems just as deep as FE. I played about 5 minutes of the tutorial, lost the second battle, then decided to start a random map game. My only real complaint so far is the small army size. 6 units just doesn't feel right to me. Hopefully there is a tech that increases it.
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Gus, I'd second the Feist nomination.  His characters are a bit one-dimensional, but his bad guys are interesting, especially in the first 4 or 5 books.  And he has a number of military conflicts, but not so many that the book turns into a total grind.

Some folks also love The Emperor's Edge.  I know you're a fan of steampunk, but I found it "meh".  Not about battles and war, really.  Just a fantasy steampunk adventure.

I'm sure I'll end up getting this one, but might let other folks serve as the "gamma testers" first.

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Quote from: Kushan on April 02, 2014, 12:51:50 AM
My only real complaint so far is the small army size. 6 units just doesn't feel right to me. Hopefully there is a tech that increases it.

I don't think there's a tech that increases army size, but don't forget that when a hex gets attacked, any armies in the hexes surrounding it get drawn into the battle as well, so a battle can potentially involve 42 units.

Given how much tactical combat there is in the game, that's fine with me.

Jarhead0331

Quote from: Kushan on April 02, 2014, 12:51:50 AM
Quote from: Bletchley_Geek on April 01, 2014, 10:41:55 PM
It's much less deep than Fallen Enchantress vanilla, let alone the expansions. But AoW one doesn't seem to have the pacing problems I've observed in FE since forever.

In what way is it not as deep? Based off my first impression it seems just as deep as FE. I played about 5 minutes of the tutorial, lost the second battle, then decided to start a random map game. My only real complaint so far is the small army size. 6 units just doesn't feel right to me. Hopefully there is a tech that increases it.

Yes. Army size is ridiculously small. However, you can fight battles with more than one army. So keep armies close together for support.
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If I've never played any other Age of Wonders games before but really enjoyed FE is this something I should look in to getting?
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Quote from: Kushan on April 02, 2014, 12:51:50 AM
Quote from: Bletchley_Geek on April 01, 2014, 10:41:55 PM
It's much less deep than Fallen Enchantress vanilla, let alone the expansions. But AoW one doesn't seem to have the pacing problems I've observed in FE since forever.

In what way is it not as deep? Based off my first impression it seems just as deep as FE. I played about 5 minutes of the tutorial, lost the second battle, then decided to start a random map game. My only real complaint so far is the small army size. 6 units just doesn't feel right to me. Hopefully there is a tech that increases it.

As far as I know, it doesn't have a tech tree, nor the ability to design units. But that's what I can tell from looking at screenshots and reading reviews.

Note as well that not being as deep might not be a problem. FE depth saddles the game badly for me, and it feels like one of those Total Masochism mods for Medieval Total War.

Yskonyn

Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 02, 2014, 03:43:10 AM
Quote from: Kushan on April 02, 2014, 12:51:50 AM
Quote from: Bletchley_Geek on April 01, 2014, 10:41:55 PM
It's much less deep than Fallen Enchantress vanilla, let alone the expansions. But AoW one doesn't seem to have the pacing problems I've observed in FE since forever.

In what way is it not as deep? Based off my first impression it seems just as deep as FE. I played about 5 minutes of the tutorial, lost the second battle, then decided to start a random map game. My only real complaint so far is the small army size. 6 units just doesn't feel right to me. Hopefully there is a tech that increases it.



Yes. Army size is ridiculously small. However, you can fight battles with more than one army. So keep armies close together for support.

With the combined army mechanic Battles in AOW3 can be significantly langer than awhat I have played in Fallen Enchantress.

Can anyone confirm there is or is not a techtree or some form of research in aow3? How do you get to the higher level spells? Is that just an ability that comes with a character?
I've seen AoW3 being described as Civ5 Fantasy. Civ 5 has research, but AoW3 does not?

Not to be rude, BG, but I rather get this confirmed from a player than from speculative screenshots and or internet discussion. Not a very reliable source if taken seperately from actual player input. ;)
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Quote from: TheCommandTent on April 02, 2014, 05:37:20 AM
If I've never played any other Age of Wonders games before but really enjoyed FE is this something I should look in to getting?

I would say yes. It's too early to say but it's probably an advantage to not have any AoW experience. I like FE and AoW!
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Gusington

I've not played Fallen Enchantress or any AoW either. Are the two comparable?

And thanks for the book recommendations, still poking around looking...might get Malice.

Really don't want to get hooked on a book series though, but it doesn't look like I have much of a choice.
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