X Rebirth - revisit

JudgeDredd · April 12, 2014, 12:14:05 PM

So I thought I'd plug my joystick in - give this a look again.

well **** me if I don't have a CLUE what's going on. That stoopid bint next to me is yacking every single time about "Transmitting rendevous point now" - which invariably leads me (read ALWAYS) to one of those awful time traveller highways!

Then when I get to "Cuspid Point" or whatever it is, I get the same message from her - and it's back to another highway to go to Westgate or Watergate or some such place. I've just spent 15 minutes in highways going from one to the other and being led there by her.

On top of that, I can't seem to see anywhere what my mission is, I don't get (understand) the maps, Sector, Galaxy, Zone or otherwise.

I am just totally and utterly lost in it. I've looked at the control configuration - but can see anything that helps me. On top of that unless I get to a gate that "ends", I'm told to exit the highway - and I don't know how to do it. At one place, I mashed the keyboard and hit some key and managed to exit - but I have no idea what key it was.

I'm just totally and utterly confused by it. The whole interface.

On top of that, it still looks dire to me...it really does!

mikeck · April 12, 2014, 12:54:21 PM

To exit, just hit a directional buying "WASD" I think until you pop out. For example, if you are on the top trail if you hit up one more time you'll pop out if you're in the far bottom trail at the bottom teeth one more time to pop out. If you look at your key configuration there is also another key that automatically pops you out I can't remember my easier something like that just look at your configuration.

JudgeDredd · April 12, 2014, 12:55:53 PM

Thanks. I thought I did that - but perhaps not.

mikeck · April 12, 2014, 01:58:45 PM

I wish I could help with your campaign issues but I always just play sandbox

Nefaro · April 12, 2014, 03:07:34 PM

Quote from: mikeck on April 12, 2014, 01:58:45 PM
I wish I could help with your campaign issues but I always just play sandbox

Not a bad idea. I may just try sandbox instead of whatever storyline the campaign has.

The mod that allows you to talk to everyone in space stations without walking in - has that been updated over time? That station walking stuff was crap and literally made me nauseous. Don't think I could play long without modding that out.

JudgeDredd · April 13, 2014, 06:43:00 AM

Good god. >:(

Does anyone else's mouse disappear when you stop moving it. I like to use my X52 Pro for flying but like to use the mouse in game for selecting menu options and objects to interact with and for selecting dialog options - but the mouse disappears when you stop moving it. Even more annoying, you select something with the mouse and before you can do anything, the "selection" goes back to whatever you are pointing at in your crosshairs with the joystick or nothing if there's nothing near your joystick crosshairs.

I can't seem to get to dock to a thing. I haven't come across a menu to dock. I select a station on my map and then operate the comms button - and I get a trader or some other NPC but no station options.

JudgeDredd · April 13, 2014, 07:11:10 AM

lol - I actually do not know how to dock. I've just "found" (read stumbled across) a new docking platform and I've been informed it's been added to the database - but I do not have a clue on how to find out where to dock or how to.

I'm positive when I first got this that you moved your cursor over the object which gave you options - and I'm getting NOTHING showing up now.

JudgeDredd · April 13, 2014, 07:21:52 AM

Definitely an exercise in futility this.

I found a "trade option" now...by having my mouse cursor over a first aid kit at a station...no idea how to get to it, see what it is, buy it...nothing. >:(

I had hoped this had come along since the last time...it's been a while since I fired it up...but I have no idea how to find out what to do or how to do things...and I've been through the control options - but there's nothing there.

I think part of the problem seems to be that my mouse isn't "persistent" - so I can't highlight and interact with anything

Jarhead0331 · April 13, 2014, 09:00:19 AM

Quote from: JudgeDredd on April 13, 2014, 07:21:52 AM
Definitely an exercise in futility this.

I found a "trade option" now...by having my mouse cursor over a first aid kit at a station...no idea how to get to it, see what it is, buy it...nothing. >:(

I had hoped this had come along since the last time...it's been a while since I fired it up...but I have no idea how to find out what to do or how to do things...and I've been through the control options - but there's nothing there.

I think part of the problem seems to be that my mouse isn't "persistent" - so I can't highlight and interact with anything

Truthfully, doesn't sound like a testament as to how far the game has improved since release...it sounds more like your frustration over not being able to figure out how to play the game. :P

JudgeDredd · April 13, 2014, 09:07:46 AM

It's an interface - it shouldn't need to be rocket science.

I've spent an hour travelling about and I haven't been able to dock anywhere.

So fine - I'm pretty sure if this was a problem in game, then there would be a lot of noise about it - but I hang about here - so I don't know if there is or isn't. What I DO know is this - I should be able to "somehow", fly up to a station, select it, comms with it and dock - and I've spent an hour in game and have not been able to do so.

When I originally fired up the game, I could - and now I can't. So something is wrong somewhere. I can see the little floating icons telling you there's a bar there or there's a mission or whatever - but I have NO CLUE how to get to those

Like I originally said - I used to be able to dock when the game first came out...that was without reading any manual or doing anything special. I could do it...just like that. But I can't now - so something has changed or something is broke...either with the game or my configuration.

And as I said - it's an interface - you shouldn't need to go that deep to play.

NM - I'll figure it out or dump it. I've got plenty of other games that cause me less frustration.

Tpek · April 13, 2014, 09:08:58 AM

Sounds like playing the old Battlecruiser series without the manuals :P

mikeck · April 13, 2014, 09:30:04 AM

Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 13, 2014, 09:00:19 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on April 13, 2014, 07:21:52 AM
Definitely an exercise in futility this.

I found a "trade option" now...by having my mouse cursor over a first aid kit at a station...no idea how to get to it, see what it is, buy it...nothing. >:(

I had hoped this had come along since the last time...it's been a while since I fired it up...but I have no idea how to find out what to do or how to do things...and I've been through the control options - but there's nothing there.

I think part of the problem seems to be that my mouse isn't "persistent" - so I can't highlight and interact with anything

Truthfully, doesn't sound like a testament as to how far the game has improved since release...it sounds more like your frustration over not being able to figure out how to play the game. :P

To dock, just click on the icon floating above the station...either a "C" a wench, a missile, etc depending on what is there. Click on the icon and the menu to dock pops up.

The game is fine, it's just not that hard to get around on...Lol. Sometimes though people have a tough time with a given game. The problem with rebirth isn't the bugs anymore (there are some but not a ton) but the general game. It's just not x4...

I was disappointed in that but have now just excepted it for what it is: a space trader game.

I will try to help people when I can but like judges issue with the campiagn: I any help because I don't understand the problem. I haven't experienced it. The people tell me where to go, I follow the signs and go there. If there is a bug (which there may be) I don't have it. My cursor doesn't disappear.

As for the mechanics, just like AoW3, you learn those by doing the tutorial. If you can't, then it is difficult. Play the first few sections of the campaign and you will learn most of what you need.

mikeck · April 13, 2014, 09:35:45 AM

To trade you have to have found an offer. You also need to own a trade freighter (you can't carry goods in your ship). You go to your trade menu and purchase whatever you want. Your freighter will go there and load up.

I know your frustrated...lol. It's a decent game but you can't just jump in and play. I never could with the x series.

When a game has big issues when it first comes out and keep some of its issues later on some people just have problems with running it. Maybe it's all of the Band-Aids that were applied over the code that doesn't agree with systems but look at in the Nefaro and Rome 2..the guy has tried as hard as he can to work with this game, play it and enjoy it but it just doesn't work right for him no matter what he does. not his fault. game doesn't like his computer for some reason.

Maybe the same here for you. Something isn't clicking.

JudgeDredd · April 13, 2014, 09:40:45 AM

Thanks mikeck.

As I said in my post to JH - I remember being able to dock...and it wasn't difficult. The problem seemed to be my mouse was in and out....activated and de-activated all by itself. As soon as I moved the mouse, the cursor would show. Within a split second of stopping moving the mouse, the mouse cursor would disappear. Ultimately - that made it impossible to select any items. Any docking stations, any objects etc because the mouse wasn't working long enough to keep the object selected so I could see a menu and select an option.

So the very simple menu system wasn't working for me. As I stated in my post, my mouse kept disappearing. I'd select an item and where there used to be a menu system, there wasn't. I wasn't getting anything and in fact within a split second of selecting any item, the item would be de-selected.

I have however restarted and I am actually able to double click an item to bring up a menu system to operate. This wasn't working for me. I wasn't bitching about nothing. It is now.

I'm pretty sure I mentioned this mouse issue way back when this was released and there was an active thread on the game...though I do think I was still able to dock at the time.

JudgeDredd · April 13, 2014, 09:42:41 AM

Quote from: mikeck on April 13, 2014, 09:35:45 AM
To trade you have to have found an offer. You also need to own a trade freighter (you can't carry goods in your ship). You go to your trade menu and purchase whatever you want. Your freighter will go there and load up.

I know your frustrated...lol. It's a decent game but you can't just jump in and play. I never could with the x series.

The issues (as I suspected) were controller related. I wasn't bitching about not being able to trade etc...just that I couldn't interact with anything. I simply mentioned the "trade" thing because I was came across an option as I was flying through a station - but whilst I could see the icon I couldn't interact with it.

It's all good. I'm out now.