Fallen Enchantress: Legendary Heroes

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Staggerwing

There's a similar story about two roosters, one young and one old, and the young one's first day on the job at the henhouse. It ends a little differently...
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Steelgrave

Quote from: Staggerwing on May 04, 2014, 04:35:01 PM
There's a similar story about two roosters, one young and one old, and the young one's first day on the job at the henhouse. It ends a little differently...

Heh heh heh....I'm pretty sure I know the story  ;)

Grim.Reaper

Dumb question.....how the heck do you heal your troops, hero, and leaders?  Couldn't figure out to heal them after getting damaged in battle.

Kushan

Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 04, 2014, 07:46:45 PM
Dumb question.....how the heck do you heal your troops, hero, and leaders?  Couldn't figure out to heal them after getting damaged in battle.

You can use a healing spell or you can leave them idle in your territory. Not sure if they heal faster in a city or outpost or not.
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Steelgrave

Not positive either, but heroes seem to heal pretty well on their own. You can also feed them or purchase potions/scrolls. Troops? I usually send damaged units to the nearest town, swapping them out with fresh cannon fodder troops when possible.

Grim.Reaper

Thanks guys...I'll give that a try....

Tuna

My second game, I facing a severe shortage of Metal.. can only build archers  :( ...

Is there a way to find out what other factions have? Can you 'trader' for resouces (I haven't done much in diplomacy at all yet.. lol.. Just declare war!

Kushan

I just lost 2.5 hours playing my current campaign. I've started to clear out the surrounding hordes. I never realized that those strong/deadly monster never moved unless your ZoC triggered them. Had an uneventful war with the undead faction but they never even sent units my way. I didn't even know where their territory was until after the war was over. In a war with one of the Empires now. Same thing, not an enemy unit in sight. Bringing my armies back towards my capital so I can do a little reorganizing and upgrading, then I'm going to go smash the undead to my south.
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Steelgrave

Quote from: Tuna on May 04, 2014, 09:32:12 PM
My second game, I facing a severe shortage of Metal.. can only build archers  :( ...

Is there a way to find out what other factions have? Can you 'trader' for resouces (I haven't done much in diplomacy at all yet.. lol.. Just declare war!

You can trade for resources and tech points. The better the other faction likes you, the better your trade prices will go. Besides your standing with your trading partner, they may also place more value on one resource, say horses, than another. Usually what I do is click on whatever they have that I want (usually tech points), see what value they place on what I want, then give them the equivalent in gold, tech points, resources, whatever I can spare that covers the price. Also, if you have enough gold, you can flat buy their tech points for cash, which is a useful way to spend excess gilder   8)

Grim.Reaper

Speaking of diplomacy and trading, couple questions....and some miscellaneous.

1). Does the ai ever initiate trade and diplomacy discussions.  Granted its early, but I haven't been approached by any factions yet.  Just me asking them.

2). How do you get the factions to like you better?  Every time I try diplomacy stuff, seems like it takes a lot to convince them.  Is there things I can do to make their demands seem more reasonable?

3) if an enemy engages you in battle, before the actual battle begins, can you choose to retreat and run away?  Didn't see an option for that.

4). While in tactical battle, any way to retreat instead of being forced to fight to the death of every unit?

Tuna

Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 05, 2014, 04:26:57 AM
Speaking of diplomacy and trading, couple questions....and some miscellaneous.

1). Does the ai ever initiate trade and diplomacy discussions.  Granted its early, but I haven't been approached by any factions yet.  Just me asking them.


2). How do you get the factions to like you better?  Every time I try diplomacy stuff, seems like it takes a lot to convince them.  Is there things I can do to make their demands seem more reasonable?

3) if an enemy engages you in battle, before the actual battle begins, can you choose to retreat and run away?  Didn't see an option for that.

4). While in tactical battle, any way to retreat instead of being forced to fight to the death of every unit?

1) They approach me all the time, I forget what they offer, but they usually include tribute, doesn't seem tmo do much tome.

2) I'm usually declairing war!  8)

3) Some of them I've had the option to 'cancel', I think that's because my movement brought me onto their tile. I think if they attack, you can't cancel

4) During regular battles I haven't seen away. I got a 'scroll' that says something about leaving the battlefield (but I haven't used it yet, want to save it for a future use - I think scrolls are one time uses).

Shelldrake

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Martok

Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 05, 2014, 04:26:57 AM
1). Does the ai ever initiate trade and diplomacy discussions.  Granted its early, but I haven't been approached by any factions yet.  Just me asking them.
Oh yeah, other factions do initiate deals and treaty discussions; it just generally takes them a while before they do so.  It probably is indeed because it's early (at least in part) that they haven't done so yet. 

Also, they seem to become more interested in talking to you when you have something to trade/sell to them.  So once you begin to accumulate certain resources in quantity (such as iron, horses, etc.), you may find other factions wanting to chat with you more often.  (At least, that's been my experience.) 



Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 05, 2014, 04:26:57 AM
2). How do you get the factions to like you better?  Every time I try diplomacy stuff, seems like it takes a lot to convince them.  Is there things I can do to make their demands seem more reasonable?
Even I find this tricky, and there sometimes seems to be a bit of "voodoo" involved at times.  That being said, there's a couple things I've noticed: 

1.)  The stronger you are, the better terms you seem to be able to get. 

2.)  If you've given a faction favorable deals in the past (rather than just the bare minimum of what is needed for them to accept said deals), they seem to remember that on some level.  ("Hey, he's not just a miserly old *&%*% who constantly pinches his pennies!  Maybe he's not so bad...") 



Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 05, 2014, 04:26:57 AM
3) if an enemy engages you in battle, before the actual battle begins, can you choose to retreat and run away?  Didn't see an option for that.
As Tuna mentioned, I believe you can retreat when you're the attacker, but not if you're the defender. 



Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 05, 2014, 04:26:57 AM
4). While in tactical battle, any way to retreat instead of being forced to fight to the death of every unit?
Generally speaking, no you can't.  (Incidentally, this covers one of the main issues I have with combat in this game -- that retreat isn't possible under normal circumstances.)  However, you *can* withdraw from battle if you have a Sovereign or Champion with the "Cautious" trait.  (Personally, I give this to trait to all my custom-designed Sovereigns.) 

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Tuna

Quote from: Steelgrave on May 04, 2014, 09:56:47 PM
Quote from: Tuna on May 04, 2014, 09:32:12 PM
My second game, I facing a severe shortage of Metal.. can only build archers  :( ...

Is there a way to find out what other factions have? Can you 'trader' for resouces (I haven't done much in diplomacy at all yet.. lol.. Just declare war!

You can trade for resources and tech points. The better the other faction likes you, the better your trade prices will go. Besides your standing with your trading partner, they may also place more value on one resource, say horses, than another. Usually what I do is click on whatever they have that I want (usually tech points), see what value they place on what I want, then give them the equivalent in gold, tech points, resources, whatever I can spare that covers the price. Also, if you have enough gold, you can flat buy their tech points for cash, which is a useful way to spend excess gilder   8)

I played a lil at lunch, but when I went into the trade talk, I did not see Metal as an option.. Gilder and techpoints.. but not really resources.. Do I have to do something to expand to resources? Wondering if I'm on a map where Metal mines are non existent!

Grim.Reaper

Thanks for all the tips guys, hopefully I'll have time to play again in the near future.