Front Page Sports Football Returning - Can this be true?

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Grim.Reaper

Quote from: Swatter on August 02, 2014, 01:58:31 PM
I have to throw a flag down on this one- a giant red warning flag.

The developers are promising the stars (management, play creation, play calling, and 3D presentation). Unfortunately, they are one month out from release and there is only one screen shot on the website. There is virtually no press or solid information on the game. That all adds up to nearly zero, which is what I think the chances are of this game even coming close to being a true successor to FPSFB. My guess is that they will release a buggy management simulation with the actual 3D part released "later" as a "patch". Then of course the promised features never materialize.

In order to make a cool football simulation with a 3D field and animated players, that requires the efforts of a large development team with tons of resources. If they really put serious resources into this effort, the advertising budget would be greater than zero. Think about it- if the game was worth a poop, they would be dumb not to show it off to anyone. Watch this baby crash and burn quickly upon "release".

I am skeptical as well but does depend on how long it has been in development...there were rumors of a browser version being worked on back in 2009 and it had a number of other screenshots.  If this turns out to be the browser version then they have had at least 5 years to work on it......who knows, maybe they just took the core engie of the previous version and "prettied it up".

What throws me off a little is in their announcement it specifically mentions coming to your "PC"...if it was a browser version, not sure why they would mention a specific type of device since most browser games can be played on any platform.

At the end of the day I am setting my expectations low and hope that I will be pleasantly surprised.....I don't need a game as pretty as madden, nor as complex as front office football....just need something that reasonably resembles American football that is fun to play.

I guess we'll see in a month or so....

DennisS

Quote from: Swatter on August 02, 2014, 01:58:31 PM
I have to throw a flag down on this one- a giant red warning flag.

The developers are promising the stars (management, play creation, play calling, and 3D presentation). Unfortunately, they are one month out from release and there is only one screen shot on the website. There is virtually no press or solid information on the game. That all adds up to nearly zero, which is what I think the chances are of this game even coming close to being a true successor to FPSFB. My guess is that they will release a buggy management simulation with the actual 3D part released "later" as a "patch". Then of course the promised features never materialize.

In order to make a cool football simulation with a 3D field and animated players, that requires the efforts of a large development team with tons of resources. If they really put serious resources into this effort, the advertising budget would be greater than zero. Think about it- if the game was worth a poop, they would be dumb not to show it off to anyone. Watch this baby crash and burn quickly upon "release".

This reminds me of Sacred 3, being released four days early, BEFORE the reviewers get a chance to warn people away.

Brand recognition can be a wonderful thing, if you're Lexus, or Coca-Cola, or Maytag, or even Sacred....but....if you use that brand recognition to sell a bullshit product, then you're going to suffer.

In this case, Cyanide will spend all the brand capital from Front Page Sports Football, and game I LOVED for years, just to turn a quick profit. They will ruin the legacy of one of the greatest franchises ever in doing so.

...aaaaand it is completely legal for them to do so, as they purchased the rights to the name. The folks that owned the rights get a little cash, Cyanide gets a lot of cash, and all the purchasers of the new game get f*cked.

Arctic Blast

I think the legacy of the FPS series was already a smoking crater, thanks to the last couple of iterations of it. Not much left to ruin.

reapagan

Only 99 was unfinished crap, 98 and earlier were fine. They apparently wanted to remake Madden with 99, epic fail. I'm looking forward to see what this is about, I liked Bloodbowl, played turn based it was very representative of the board game.  Also look at a failed kickstarter called Dynasty Football, looks a lot like the spiritual descendant of FPS.  I don't know whether the guy writing it was going to continue but he was looking for help with the graphics end.

Grim.Reaper

No matter what this game turns out to be, it will never be as good as the old game in the eyes of the huge supporters back then:)  Let's face it back in the 90's PC games where just hitting their stride and a gamer back then did not have as high expectations as nowadays, nor did they have all the media/forums to critique it like happens today.  I wonder how well the game would be received and talked about if it was just released now? 

I was a fan of the original game back then and even remember driving hours to pick it up at a computer store...

I also really enjoyed the two football titles from Microsports, All-American College Football and NFL Pro League Football...also really liked Microleague Football back then....boy, there really were some good titles back then and multiple choices:)

Either way, I continue to remain cautious but hopeful that somehow this won't be  huge disappointment....

Nefaro

Quote from: Grim.Reaper on August 03, 2014, 07:00:02 PM


Either way, I continue to remain cautious but hopeful that somehow this won't be  huge disappointment....

Yep.

I'm not gonna go bashing it before I've seen it.  Obviously it will cause some ire just by using the name alone, but hopefully it won't be a total wreck or an impostor.

DennisS

Quote from: reapagan on August 03, 2014, 06:44:59 PM
Only 99 was unfinished crap, 98 and earlier were fine. They apparently wanted to remake Madden with 99, epic fail. I'm looking forward to see what this is about, I liked Bloodbowl, played turn based it was very representative of the board game.  Also look at a failed kickstarter called Dynasty Football, looks a lot like the spiritual descendant of FPS.  I don't know whether the guy writing it was going to continue but he was looking for help with the graphics end.

98 was fine, 99 was sold in stores so badly flawed that it wouldn't even boot. Seriously..they sold thousands of copies of a game that wouldn't run after installation.

I had to fight like hell to get my money back..the f*cktard at Software Plus said no refunds..and I make him check with his distributor, when he was finally informed that it was safe to return ALL copies of this POS to them.

smittyohio

Quote from: DennisS on August 04, 2014, 04:54:07 PM
Quote from: reapagan on August 03, 2014, 06:44:59 PM
Only 99 was unfinished crap, 98 and earlier were fine. They apparently wanted to remake Madden with 99, epic fail. I'm looking forward to see what this is about, I liked Bloodbowl, played turn based it was very representative of the board game.  Also look at a failed kickstarter called Dynasty Football, looks a lot like the spiritual descendant of FPS.  I don't know whether the guy writing it was going to continue but he was looking for help with the graphics end.

98 was fine, 99 was sold in stores so badly flawed that it wouldn't even boot. Seriously..they sold thousands of copies of a game that wouldn't run after installation.

I had to fight like hell to get my money back..the f*cktard at Software Plus said no refunds..and I make him check with his distributor, when he was finally informed that it was safe to return ALL copies of this POS to them.

Be thankful it wouldn't boot for you.   That was the *best* possible outcome.   ;-)

Grim.Reaper

So it is looking promising that it will actually be a pc based game, not browser.  On another site a person indicated they received the following email which states it will be released on steam and states it as a solo version.  In addition on their facebook page, a person from their company reiterated it will be pc based as they also confirmed there would be no iPad version.   Still looking forward to more details but at least this part is good news, assuming it is accurate.



The email...

Football fever about to kick into full swing, and while you prepare to gorge yourself on the games and fantasy football, we are bringing back a blast from the past for you to enjoy this season: Front Page Sports Football!

With Front Page Sports Football you will be able to manage a US football team of your creation and make all the decisions that a real manager or coach would make during a season. Just like every other general manager, you will have to compose the best team (from the draft, signing free agents and the like, as well as manage many other details like morale, affinity, finances, training sessions, etc).

At the same time you will fill the role of coach, setting a game plan for every match through a playbook of over 2,300 unique plays. You will also have access to a range of orders and actions to improve management of your team. You will also be able to watch full 2D or 3D replays of your game and consult a wide range of statistics to improve your team moves, anticipate the reaction of your challengers, and much more.

The new solo version of Front Page Sports Football is coming soon on Steam, just in time for the upcoming football season! You can check out a first look at the game interface on our brand new facebook page.

bbmike

Are you sure this isn't the same people who re-did WWI Gold and are just re-doing Maximum Football?  :D
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Grim.Reaper

Quote from: bbmike on August 06, 2014, 05:19:47 AM
Are you sure this isn't the same people who re-did WWI Gold and are just re-doing Maximum Football?  :D

Don't jinx this news, at least until it comes out....I already have a suspicion I will be disappointed but want to remain blindly hopeful until then:)

As for maximum football, that is probably the only football game I never played...just so many knocks on it made me afraid to try.  If maybe it ever is on sale for the weekly deal, may have to try it just to see it play:)

fabius

Really want this or another company to make a good FM like American Football game. Whoever picks it up first please post impressions  :coolsmiley:

Nefaro

Quote from: fabius on August 06, 2014, 08:37:25 AM
Really want this or another company to make a good FM like American Football game. Whoever picks it up first please post impressions  :coolsmiley:

I'll probably jump right in.  If that email notification holds any water, it's supposed to have all the career sim facets.  Just how detailed they are has yet to be seen.  It's rather alarming that there aren't many promo screenshots or other info out there yet but maybe we'll get a surprise.  Worth a shot, I suppose. 

I had recently been thinking of getting Second and Ten but it doesn't really have a multi-season career mode nor any proper Free Agency or Contract Negotiation and other such things.  Sure, you can shoehorn the most basic rookie draft stuff in from season-to-season, with a lot of work, but it still looks like a pain in the ass for such thin results.  Maybe I'll pick up the Golf career sim from Wolverine Studios (on Steam now) instead and just get Front Page when it releases.  I probably shouldn't get anything right now since I've not played a digital game in about a week for various reasons, but that wouldn't fit my game collecting addiction.   :))

Nefaro

Hopefully somebody can quickly mod in the logos, helmets, etc.

Screenshot from Gamershell:






http://www.gamershell.com/news_167115.html

Nefaro