Blood Bowl!

[GJK]

Dwarf, Chaos Dwarf, Orcs and Goblins are bashy teams (good armor *and* can hit).  Halflings are supposedly one of the worst teams to play as...or should I say...one of the more challenging teams to play as.  I've never played them, so don't know but looking at their roster, it's 0-16 halflings and a treeman or two.  Treemen are strong but super super slow and they can "take root" and get stuck in their square.  The halfling is slow (5 MA), poor armor (6 AV), low agility (2 AG) but decent skills.  Yikes, that would be a tough team to play as!

The Undead team is supposed to be a good team to play as well.

[BanzaiCat]

I know that contradicts what I said about liking bashy teams, but ultimately I have to decide if I want to be attached to these players or not. Halflings and Goblins are a dime a dozen (almost literally so) and if one dies it's not that big a deal.

Though if a Halfling or Goblin manages to reach Star Player status, having them die then would be bad.

Hmm. I have more thinking to do. Bashy-wise I'd lean more to Dwarves or Chaos. Maybe Chaos Dwarf - I've got some readin' to do.

[undercovergeek]

im deffo skaven

registered for access to the site to register my team - just waiting for admin update

[GJK]

Outcast took the Amazons and has his roster filled out.  I've got my Norse set up as well.  Skaven are the quickest team on the pitch...fast little rats!  That leaves Khemri, Orcs, Goblins, Undead, Humans, Dwarves, High Elves...lots of good teams out there.

[KyzBP]

I'm pretty sure I'm going with the Dwarves.  I'll try to get things situated tomorrow.  This should be fun.

[GJK]

UCG grabbed the Skaven...everybody bring some cheese to the matches!  Wait, that's mice isn't it??  :)

[undercovergeek]

just need to pick the team now - ill do that today

[GJK]

Playbooks for each of the teams are located at http://www.plasmoids.dk/bbowl/LRB6Playbooks.htm

Breaking down the Skaven team:

PRO
1. FAST!  Fastest team on the pitch. 
2. The Gutter Runner. The Gutter Rats can almost cover half the field in one turn PLUS they have 4 AGility with Dodge.  Quick and evasive.
3. Line rats are cheap.  Buy 'em for a dime a dozen at $50k.
4. They can toss and catch the ball with the Thrower who has Pass and Sure Hands
5. Moderately good armor to good armor.  8 AV for the Blitzer's is a plus.

CON
1. 7 AV for the rest of the team is a bit of a liability.  It's not weak armor, but 7 will break more times than you want it to.
2. You'll wish that the Gutter Rats had a ST of 3 and not 2!

I like this team.  I'm playing them now in a test pbem game.  I'm finding that they are a bit squishy against a bashy team (such as the Orcs) so vs those teams you won't want to go base to base.  I'm also liking that I can break up a box/cage fairly effectively.  The tactic is to sit back out of range and then using that fast MA, swoop in on a corner of the cage and bust it out and then bust in to get to the ball carrier. 

This is going to be fun! 

[GJK]

FYI the forum is now up at the vabbl.org site (www.vabbl.org/forum).  We'll be adding menu and navigation next.  You will need to register for the forum (aside from the OBBL league manager software) but you can certainly use the same credentials that you used to join the league (at least use the same username to avoid confusion).

Also, I'm thinking of holding a coach's meeting some time soon to go over VASSAL installation and module usage.  We can coordinate a group call via Skype or Teamspeak and then go over some things.  Let's start to figure out if a week night this week or if some time over the weekend is going to be best.  I can certainly do multiple sessions if needed.

We have two Norse teams (mine included) so I will need to work up another copy of the team that uses a different color scheme to avoid confusion so there will be a new build of the module.  I will probably wait until coach's have all picked their teams first though in case there's any other conflicts.

If anybody needs help getting their team organized and put in to the league manager software, let me know.

Once we're all registered at vabbl.org, we can move our league related discussions over there.  I'll keep Grogheads site updated in case others not in the league are following along.

[undercovergeek]

awesome - thanks for that, my teams up, full roster with names and im ready

ebay has a complete boxed set at £20 so im on that

looking forward to this, i love the RPG elements

[GJK]

I picked up my copy of the Third Edition boxed set in very good condition for $50 USD at a Half Price book store.  Just happened to see it there but had never played the game (I had heard of it before though and thought that the concept was  intriguing.  That's what started this whole mess including working late hours on my next Blood Bowl pitch that I've been making.  :)

[KyzBP]

My Dwarves are ready.  Their rookie coach may be a different story though.

Good call on the Three Die Block podcasts!  I listened to two of them today I really liked them.  I also tried to listen to something called Zlurpcast.  It was possibly the worst podcast I've ever listened to.  Don't waste your time with those.

I 'll hopefully be ready to go this weekend but as I said before, I have almost no time this month so please be patient with me.

[GJK]

My Dwarves are ready.  Their rookie coach may be a different story though.

Good call on the Three Dice Block podcasts!  I listened to two of them today I really liked them.  I also tried to listen to something called Zlurpcast.  It was possibly the worst podcast I've ever listened to.  Don't waste your time with those.

I 'll hopefully be ready to go this weekend but as I said before, I have almost no time this month so please be patient with me.

The format is relaxed and you're already ahead of the game by having your team all set up.  Next step is to get joined and logged in to the forums at http://vabbl.org/forum/index.php.  Info is being passed along there.

I love 3dieblock....the podcasts up to 2011 or so (that have Pauley).  People ripped that Pauley wasn't a good enough BB player and should be ripped from the podcast but he was very professional with his broadcasting....I miss him on the newer podcasts.

That said, let's critique the Dwarf team since that is the one that you picked:

PRO's
1. Their AV (armor value).  All 8's and 9's with a 10 for the deathroller if/when you acquire him.  These little bastich's are tough!
2. Skills.  They all Block and the blockers can Tackle.  Throw in Thick Skull and some Sure Hands and you have some skilled up little bastich's!
3. Frenzy on the Troll Slayer.  It's a love-hate relationship with that skill but it can reak some havoc.
4. Moderate ST on all players (3).  You'll wish that you had (4), but 3 is good.  You'll squish some 2 ST opponents.

CON's
1. Slow.  What did you expect?  They have short legs and so they don't run very fast.  MA's of 4-6 will hurt against faster, more agile teams.
2. Cost: Blockers are 70K and it goes up from there.  Losing a player will be costly.
3. AG 2 on the blockers will mean that you won't want to dodge with them.  They can go base to base and tie up opposing pieces but with their slow MA (4) and 2 AG, they won't be your cage busters.
4. Deathroller can be devestating but since he is employing "Secret Weapon", his time on the pitch could be limited.  Might be better to spend those earnings on a Star Player instead.

[KyzBP]

My Dwarves are ready.  Their rookie coach may be a different story though.

Good call on the Three Dice Block podcasts!  I listened to two of them today I really liked them.  I also tried to listen to something called Zlurpcast.  It was possibly the worst podcast I've ever listened to.  Don't waste your time with those.

I 'll hopefully be ready to go this weekend but as I said before, I have almost no time this month so please be patient with me.

The format is relaxed and you're already ahead of the game by having your team all set up.  Next step is to get joined and logged in to the forums at http://vabbl.org/forum/index.php.  Info is being passed along there.

I love 3dieblock....the podcasts up to 2011 or so (that have Pauley).  People ripped that Pauley wasn't a good enough BB player and should be ripped from the podcast but he was very professional with his broadcasting....I miss him on the newer podcasts.

That said, let's critique the Dwarf team since that is the one that you picked:

PRO's
1. Their AV (armor value).  All 8's and 9's with a 10 for the deathroller if/when you acquire him.  These little bastich's are tough!
2. Skills.  They all Block and the blockers can Tackle.  Throw in Thick Skull and some Sure Hands and you have some skilled up little bastich's!
3. Frenzy on the Troll Slayer.  It's a love-hate relationship with that skill but it can reak some havoc.
4. Moderate ST on all players (3).  You'll wish that you had (4), but 3 is good.  You'll squish some 2 ST opponents.

CON's
1. Slow.  What did you expect?  They have short legs and so they don't run very fast.  MA's of 4-6 will hurt against faster, more agile teams.
2. Cost: Blockers are 70K and it goes up from there.  Losing a player will be costly.
3. AG 2 on the blockers will mean that you won't want to dodge with them.  They can go base to base and tie up opposing pieces but with their slow MA (4) and 2 AG, they won't be your cage busters.
4. Deathroller can be devestating but since he is employing "Secret Weapon", his time on the pitch could be limited.  Might be better to spend those earnings on a Star Player instead.

I own, but have never played, the tabletop version.  I have played a bunch of the Cyanide version on the computer and have been the Dwarfs almost exclusively.  I'm sure it'll take a little time to figure it all out since the computer won't be doing everything for me.

[GJK]

Grab the VASSAL module and then start playing the logfiles that are in the "Blood Bowl vs Outcast" folder.  Don't follow my lead as the Skaven on how to play but you should gain some insight about how the VASSAL module works and some about the game play. 

I can meet with you online if you like and we can go over some of the rules too if you like.