Rome II

LongBlade · September 17, 2014, 07:59:45 PM

Quote from: mikeck on September 17, 2014, 06:38:37 PM
Well, it definitely runs better. I like the new lighting. Vanilla battles are much longer and men move slower than old vanilla. All around more polish. My only complaint: neither Anthony, Octavian nor Lepidus have any legions at the beginning. They have legions in name but they only have a few spear units and a velite unit. You mean that in 42 BC no one in Rome possessed any legions with actual legionaries? Would it have been so hard to give each leader 2 full stack legions. Also, why do I have to research "legionary cohorts"? That system was already in place at this point

Geeze, you sound like some kind of crazy grog!

O0

Gusington · September 17, 2014, 08:18:16 PM

I haven't seen Armenia's faction roster yet but I bet it is quite loin-moistening.

Nefaro · September 17, 2014, 08:19:29 PM

Quote from: Gusington on September 17, 2014, 08:18:16 PM
I haven't seen Armenia's faction roster yet but I bet it is quite loin-moistening.

I enjoyed the Armenian units in the first one. I don't recall if they were in a mod or included in the expansion.

Heavily scale armored pikes, spears, swordsmen and cataphracts looked quite shiny.

Gusington · September 17, 2014, 08:23:41 PM

^Talk to me (in Armenian) baby! I don't remember Armenia in the first one at all...

Sir Slash · September 17, 2014, 09:36:44 PM

Dammit! Now I gotta try them out.

LongBlade · September 17, 2014, 09:48:18 PM

Quote from: Gusington on September 17, 2014, 08:23:41 PM
^Talk to me (in Armenian) baby! I don't remember Armenia in the first one at all...

It's a province but not a playable faction - at least in the original vanilla.

Nefaro · September 18, 2014, 12:08:23 AM

Quote from: LongBlade on September 17, 2014, 09:48:18 PM
Quote from: Gusington on September 17, 2014, 08:23:41 PM
^Talk to me (in Armenian) baby! I don't remember Armenia in the first one at all...

It's a province but not a playable faction - at least in the original vanilla.

Was in one of the mega-mods then. Good stuff.

jomni · September 18, 2014, 12:26:52 AM

All this talk about eastern civilizations (Armenian, scythians, Parthians) led me to start reading about their history.

Will definitely play one of them after my first play through as Rome. Rome is beginning to bore me as its mostly a heavy infantry army. Even the slave rebels (lybian roster = elephants, phalanx, very heavy infantry, missile cavalry) that I usually contend with are more sophisticated in warfare. Quite hard to pacify these Africans. I got rid of Carthage and his allies early in my game. :/

Martok · September 18, 2014, 05:23:21 AM

Argh. I suddenly realized a drawback (for me) in the Imperator Augustus campaign: I do not like starting out with so much territory in strategy games, as I always feel so overwhelmed. I think this is one of the reasons I enjoy Pontus and the Greek factions in the grand campaign -- you only start out with 1-2 settlements.

<sighs, frustrated with self>

Gusington · September 18, 2014, 07:29:16 AM

Don't even look at Parthia then in the new campaign, it's huge. I am the same way. I find it easier to manage an empire if I build it from scratch.

Sir Slash · September 18, 2014, 09:42:48 AM

I got another kind of problem. My old save games work fine with patch 15 but the new political system impacts your faction depending on how much support in the senate your party has. Some effects are quite damaging to your faction. So my Rome campaign with patch 15 has my party at 17% support in the senate now and I'm taking big hits to my Public Order, income, and troop morale and melee abilities. I never paid attention to the other families before as the Civil War wasn't a big deal. It is now. So I've now got to try to grab some other family members which will drop my support further while trying to hold-off my enemies that my troops are now at a disadvantage against. Or... start a new campaign... again.

LongBlade · September 18, 2014, 09:49:09 AM

I noticed the civil war seemed different. That's one aspect of the game that I really don't understand. It seems unavoidable no matter what I do.

For instance, playing as Pontus, I started with about 48% support. At one point I dropped into the mid-30s without provoking a civil war, then got it up to 49%, then civil war broke out when I dropped to 46%. What gives? It seems like civil war is triggered more on how big my empire is rather than any shenanigans in the political system.

Nefaro · September 18, 2014, 10:14:17 AM

Quote from: Sir Slash on September 18, 2014, 09:42:48 AM
I got another kind of problem. My old save games work fine with patch 15 but the new political system impacts your faction depending on how much support in the senate your party has.

Did they ever adjust the ridiculous internal politics system? That's one new facet I found gratingly annoying. Not interesting or fun at all.

Gusington · September 18, 2014, 10:54:14 AM

I didn't like it either...it seemed DOA.

Sir Slash · September 18, 2014, 11:00:27 AM

The more support in the Senate, the more buffs your faction gets but like Longbladicus I, Long May He Reign, said, you can't be sure when it'll lead to CW. And all factions now have a senate of some kind. Maybe not that big a problem if you start early but can screw-up your faction if your already well into the campaign.