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Ebola in the US

Started by Labbug, September 30, 2014, 05:03:34 PM

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Toonces

Hey Con,
Try reading that Economist article (back a page and also quoted by Shelldrake above on this page) and let me know what you think.
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MikeGER

the fast travel options to those countries has to be stopped!
including the goody two-shoes 'catastrophe tourism' of the NGOs workers
(...latly at the hipster cafe: i am sooo cool, i spend last week in Africa to help with Ebola with my NGO ...aren't i am sponge-worthy now 'Elaine (of today)' )

BanzaiCat

But we won't stop the flights. Our 'leadership' is so far up the PC bunghole that if a pandemic did occur, this would be the gateway for it.

LongBlade

Quote from: GDS_Starfury on October 24, 2014, 12:51:21 AM
Damn!

I was so looking forward to our dystopian Groghead fortress.   >:(

Well, our current world is hardly utopia. I think the odds are good that we'd qualify for dystopia right now.
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

LongBlade

Quote from: Banzai_Cat on October 24, 2014, 08:39:45 AM
But we won't stop the flights. Our 'leadership' is so far up the PC bunghole that if a pandemic did occur, this would be the gateway for it.

Let's start a petition on the white house petition page to have their staff be the greeters for all these flights coming from west Africa. Maybe that will put things in perspective.
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

BanzaiCat

Granted, it's not so much OUR blocking of the flights. I doubt we have many direct flights to that part of the world except in the major hubs like ORD, JFK, ATL, etcetera. Airlines like Air France and Lufthansa, however, have many more flights to the US, and they have many flights to West Africa. We'd have to essentially quarantine the continent.

Though it would be far wiser to just screen passports and if someone's been to an affected area, they're denied entry, or put through testing, or whatever works best.

MikeGER

what is EBowlaing ? ...well you knwo you got a strike when you start to feel sick (and remeber you have visited a certain arena in NYC  :o )

MikeGER

#157
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on October 24, 2014, 09:16:46 AM
Though it would be far wiser to just screen passports and if someone's been to an affected area, they're denied entry, or put through testing, or whatever works best.

all passengers booked on route to the USA (also with layover, etc ) are long before stored in the computers and visible to Homeland Security /Immigration office (or who is in charge),
It would be easy to just deny them boarding the plane starting from Europe when they have been listed as coming from West Africa even days before  (all passengers lists entries are visible to the NSA at the moment of citizens booking a flight anywere.... i guess they even know the likability someone plans about traveling to a place before the person know it itself just from the vacation spots add and wiki searches he did on the internet)

BanzaiCat


OJsDad

Time to reopen Ellis Island.
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Con

Let's put a little facts to this rampant fear mongering

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/why-an-ebola-flight-ban-wouldnt-work/

Bottom line unless you want to halt ALL air travel then limiting flights will do absolutely nothing

Con

Mr. Bigglesworth

Quote from: Con on October 24, 2014, 02:59:25 PM
Let's put a little facts to this rampant fear mongering

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/why-an-ebola-flight-ban-wouldnt-work/

Bottom line unless you want to halt ALL air travel then limiting flights will do absolutely nothing

Con

You mean halt all air travel from the region. As stated it implies all air travel world wide.
"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; "
- Shakespeare's Henry V, Act III, 1598

Con

All air travel since there is no way to enforce a specific regional air travel ban on all airline/private planes especially with countries which have porous borders like these.

Con

Mr. Bigglesworth

Clearly it would be even harder to enforce a complete travel ban worldwide!
"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; "
- Shakespeare's Henry V, Act III, 1598

LongBlade

Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on October 24, 2014, 06:49:03 PM
Clearly it would be even harder to enforce a complete travel ban worldwide!

We can't keep drug smugglers from sneaking across the border. Asking us to do anything more complicated seems naive.
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.