Sid Meyer's Beyond Earth...is no-one playing?

[jomni]

So...what's the deal with Wonders?

I played through about 200 turns and not once did it give me the option to build one. Meanwhile the other AI players were building them left and right. I thought that was odd.

Just had a faction declare war on me, and he started hitting me with airstrikes. Another WTF moment, because that's not something I've been given an option to build, either.

I guess I should read the manual...but if anyone's had experience with either of these points let me know.

Ability to build wonders are unlocked by tech or by doing victory conditions in sequence.

[Grim.Reaper]

It kills me to see everyone that always seems to enjoy these civ games......without fail, I end up buying them when they are cheap, give them a try, and really never get far with them.  Wish I knew how to get maximum enjoyment out of them like everyone else seems to.  I must not grasp it as well as others.  I'll still likely end up buying this one when on sale again and repeat the same darn cycle:(

[mikeck]

Maybe you just don't like them? I hate the battle academy and panzer corp games. Many love them and I don't get why. I figured it just not for me, regardless of popularity.

[FlickJax]

I'm hooked again....I would like them to incorporate some of Jarhead's ideas :) but happy anyway.

[JudgeDredd]

Yeah - demo hooked me.

However - I've currently fired up my game of Civ V and am enjoying that at the moment. So I'll keep my eyes on this one

But the demo got a huge  O0 from me. Very polished looking, good gameplay and great graphics.

[Grim.Reaper]

Maybe you just don't like them? I hate the battle academy and panzer corp games. Many love them and I don't get why. I figured it just not for me, regardless of popularity.

Probably true....just seems like so many people like them so was hoping they would click with me, but I guess plenty of other games out there for me.

[JudgeDredd]

Maybe you just don't like them? I hate the battle academy and panzer corp games. Many love them and I don't get why. I figured it just not for me, regardless of popularity.

Probably true....just seems like so many people like them so was hoping they would click with me, but I guess plenty of other games out there for me.

I'm the same Gus with some games.

I think like mikeck says - you just got to understand they aren't your bag.

But I do the same - buy them to see what the appeal is and then go "Oh...there is none"!

Personally I love the look and feel of the Civ games and the relative simplicity of them. From the intro's to the music score and right through the game.

[Barthheart]

So far I like it. It's different enough from CiV to be interesting to play. They need to do some work to tighten some aspects up though.

I played at Mercury (Normal) level which is the same I play my CiV games at.
I had a Quest that just sat in my quest log with no way on how to resolve it, just a broad statement and no check boxes or clues as to what it meant. Never did find out how to do it.
AI seems a bit less trigger happy. The diplomacy needs work as I was denounced by my neighbor but of relationship stayed Friendly.
Water aliens are a real bitch until you get quite far into the tech tree... err... web.
I like the tech web. I'll need a lot of play time to get to know where everything is.
The victory conditions are very different. I though I had won several times but there was always another thing to complete to get the victory. I won with only 5 cities.... might have to try harder levels.

I really like the Civ games because I get to play in history. I love history. I play most all my civ games on Earth maps, with true start location if I can, to see if I can re-create history, at least with my civ. I really don't care if I win, it's about the journey through history for me.
I think this is why Alpha Centauri never held me... there is no history to play with... we'll see if this one can hold my interest beyond a few games.

[BanzaiCat]

Barth: what 'true start location' are you using in Civ V? Every mod I've tried that touts that doesn't work right.

As for Beyond Earth...

I can't put my finger on exactly what makes it good.

As Barth said, the sea monster aliens are tough bastards, but NOTHING is like the Alien Kraken. It took me about 10 turns to bring one down and that's only because it hung out near my coastal city. I half expected it to attack it but it did not, which admittedly is mildly disappointing. I don't see an option for building naval ships though it's got to come sooner or later.

Aliens on land are relatively benign though the manual says they can go hostile if you get too close to their nests, or if they're getting slaughtered. Even if you treat them peacefully, the other players can wipe them out, so they'll treat you like the enemy too if that happens. Sometimes, you don't have much of a choice but to kill them. On this last game I tried yesterday there was a nest near my capital and it spawned endless buggers, so I couldn't send out colonists in that direction (pretty much everything west of my capital was swimming with cricket aliens). I built a bunch of military units and pretty much took the Supremacy tack by going all Colonial Marines on them. Then of course, their big brother flying insects appeared, which are tough hombres...but eventually I brought the swarms under control and eliminated the nest. Of course, my hippy neighbors took umbrage to that; two of them told me repeatedly they did not like the way I was treating the indigenous species. Eventually three of them denounced me, then one declared war (the African Union or whatever they are - I can't recall whom I'm playing offhand).

That war didn't go well for either of us...I wiped out his invading forces but then he wiped mine out...our closest two cities only had a one-hex-wide access path, with mountains to one side and a canyon to the other, and he had tons of rough terrain around his town. I ended up stopping the game at that point.

I don't much like that I've not had one opportunity to build Wonders. I see my AI opponents knocking them off left and right but these structures never appear in my city build windows.

There's more. Perhaps an AAR would do well for us?

[Barthheart]

Barth: what 'true start location' are you using in Civ V? Every mod I've tried that touts that doesn't work right.
...

This is my favourite - Yet (not) Another Earth Maps Pack. Makes HUGE earth map with 22 civ's in starting locations and city states in start locals as well. Defaults to marathon speed... which you need if you're ever gonna see the whole map

[BanzaiCat]

Thanks...might give one a try later.

[Steelgrave]

Barth: what 'true start location' are you using in Civ V? Every mod I've tried that touts that doesn't work right.

As for Beyond Earth...

I can't put my finger on exactly what makes it good.

As Barth said, the sea monster aliens are tough bastards, but NOTHING is like the Alien Kraken. It took me about 10 turns to bring one down and that's only because it hung out near my coastal city. I half expected it to attack it but it did not, which admittedly is mildly disappointing. I don't see an option for building naval ships though it's got to come sooner or later.

Aliens on land are relatively benign though the manual says they can go hostile if you get too close to their nests, or if they're getting slaughtered. Even if you treat them peacefully, the other players can wipe them out, so they'll treat you like the enemy too if that happens. Sometimes, you don't have much of a choice but to kill them. On this last game I tried yesterday there was a nest near my capital and it spawned endless buggers, so I couldn't send out colonists in that direction (pretty much everything west of my capital was swimming with cricket aliens). I built a bunch of military units and pretty much took the Supremacy tack by going all Colonial Marines on them. Then of course, their big brother flying insects appeared, which are tough hombres...but eventually I brought the swarms under control and eliminated the nest. Of course, my hippy neighbors took umbrage to that; two of them told me repeatedly they did not like the way I was treating the indigenous species. Eventually three of them denounced me, then one declared war (the African Union or whatever they are - I can't recall whom I'm playing offhand).

That war didn't go well for either of us...I wiped out his invading forces but then he wiped mine out...our closest two cities only had a one-hex-wide access path, with mountains to one side and a canyon to the other, and he had tons of rough terrain around his town. I ended up stopping the game at that point.

I don't much like that I've not had one opportunity to build Wonders. I see my AI opponents knocking them off left and right but these structures never appear in my city build windows.

There's more. Perhaps an AAR would do well for us?

You can see Wonders in the tech menu, Banzai. I just built my first. Once you have the tech, the option to build the wonder appears on your build menu.

[BanzaiCat]

Thanks...finally saw 'em but the icons didn't make them stand out. I eased off on the difficulty so I could grab a few to see what it's like. Now I know and knowing is...yadda yadda.

[mikeck]

I put in about 12 hours so far. First game was...meh. Nothing really happened. AI left me alone to just build. I contribute that to having 6 players on an 8 player map. Will give it a another shot

[BanzaiCat]

^ Play on a 'Small' map with six players and you won't have that kind of luxury.

A 'Standard' 8-player map is much larger with a lot more breathing room.