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Started by PanzersEast, January 20, 2015, 11:51:47 AM

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Sir Slash

And then board them? Or just keep raking? :-X
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glen55

Just took the leap and pre-ordered.  I'm usually not a first-day buyer any more, much less pre-order, but I have been so jonesing for a naval game lately that I am playing Pirates of the Burning Sea again - and this one is by the makers of Ultimate General Gettysburg, which I love, so it was a no-brainer.
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Nefaro

Quote from: glen55 on January 22, 2015, 12:59:05 PM
Just took the leap and pre-ordered.  I'm usually not a first-day buyer any more, much less pre-order, but I have been so jonesing for a naval game lately that I am playing Pirates of the Burning Sea again - and this one is by the makers of Ultimate General Gettysburg, which I love, so it was a no-brainer.

I enjoyed PotBS for a brief time, due to it's naval warfare.  But the meta-game was slowly ruined and the developers didn't help it any.

I received an email about the PotBS rights changing hands, and that we needed to go manually switch over our old accounts to a newly created one with the new company.  But after attempting to do that a few times over the period of a month, I gave up.  The promised account transfer tool never showed up and still wasn't there the last time I had checked, approximately 1-2 weeks before the deadline.  ::)  I wasn't planning on going back at the time anyway.

From what I understand, Naval Action will have some similar open world MMO setup eventually.  Which is nice as long as they don't try to create an overly complex player run economy that doesn't have enough players regularly creating stuff to meet demand, like PotBS did.  Just one example of how that thing went downhill.  :-\

I would probably be happy with Naval Action if it was like WoT/WT with some extra single-player and co-op options.  The open world stuff would just be extra awesomeness.

glen55

It's the open-world promises of Naval Action that make it drool-worthy.  But i hope they don't go for an exclusively player-based economy.  That is so hard to make work.
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Nefaro

Got my Steam key for the Beta. 

Looks like that ass rakin' is gonna happen this weekend.   Anyone else been playing it recently?

jomni

Will server population determine the longevity this game?  I don't like to take the risk given that this is niche.

Nefaro

Quote from: jomni on January 22, 2015, 08:33:16 PM
Will server population determine the longevity this game?  I don't like to take the risk given that this is niche.

Being a MMO/BA, yes in some ways.  It has PvE of course, so I'd imagine server population would mainly just affect the PvP facets.  The PvP is what attracts me about it though.

Judging by the quality I've seen thus far, I imagine it's not something that will die off shortly after release.  Admittedly, it's nowhere near finished but I expect there will be a regular population for a long time once it's finished.  Hell.. even PotBS had a steady PvP population for years, even after it's overcooked player-run economy tanked and the devs kept changing stuff that drove part of the player base away.

I just finished playing a simple 1v1 PvE battle to make sure all is running well.  Have to force Vsync on in my vid card settings now but all was well.  I imagine the PvP battles are fun but take awhile.


DennisS

Quote from: Nefaro on January 22, 2015, 08:46:22 PM
Quote from: jomni on January 22, 2015, 08:33:16 PM
Will server population determine the longevity this game?  I don't like to take the risk given that this is niche.

Being a MMO/BA, yes in some ways.  It has PvE of course, so I'd imagine server population would mainly just affect the PvP facets.  The PvP is what attracts me about it though.

Judging by the quality I've seen thus far, I imagine it's not something that will die off shortly after release.  Admittedly, it's nowhere near finished but I expect there will be a regular population for a long time once it's finished.  Hell.. even PotBS had a steady PvP population for years, even after it's overcooked player-run economy tanked and the devs kept changing stuff that drove part of the player base away.

I just finished playing a simple 1v1 PvE battle to make sure all is running well.  Have to force Vsync on in my vid card settings now but all was well.  I imagine the PvP battles are fun but take awhile.

I am not a huge fan of PvP, unless there are VERY strong controls against ganking..what is your impression in this regard? Also, is there sufficient gameplay for a single player to stay interested, in a single-player mode?

RedArgo

I'm not sure what ganking is?

The current gameplay is just a group of ships vs another group of ships, one group will be all humans and the other will be either humans or AI depending on if you choose PVP or PVE.  If you enjoy the manuevering of the ship and shot selection then you should enjoy both modes.

If you want more than combat, I'd wait and see how the open world works out.  Personally, I like the combat and I feel like I've gotten my $40 out of the game even if the open world never materializes, although I certainly hope it does!

I played a couple games tonight and there were over 200 people on the server which is the most I've seen on a weeknight.  I haven't played on a weekend for a while, so I suspect it is higher than that now.

Nefaro

Quote from: DennisS on January 22, 2015, 09:31:06 PM

I am not a huge fan of PvP, unless there are VERY strong controls against ganking..what is your impression in this regard? Also, is there sufficient gameplay for a single player to stay interested, in a single-player mode?


Red summed it above.  There is only PvP and Co-Op battles right now, with a small selection of ships.  The game isn't complete, so knowing how the open world part plays (which isn't in yet) is anyone's guess. 

I like how the naval battles are modelled.  They're a pretty good approximation and the multi-player battles already look like fun.  That's the only reason I picked it up early - for some occasional team battles while it's in development. 

glen55

Quote from: RedArgo on January 22, 2015, 10:23:38 PM
I'm not sure what ganking is?

-> snip

It's a MMORPG term for high-level players rampaging on newbies.  In this game it would mean you're cruising along in your beginner yacht with 4 4-pounders when suddenly you are set upon by a Constitution-class frigate.
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Nefaro

Quote from: glen55 on January 23, 2015, 12:15:19 AM
Quote from: RedArgo on January 22, 2015, 10:23:38 PM
I'm not sure what ganking is?

-> snip

It's a MMORPG term for high-level players rampaging on newbies.  In this game it would mean you're cruising along in your beginner yacht with 4 4-pounders when suddenly you are set upon by a Constitution-class frigate.

Yeah.  Considered griefing by many.

GDS_Starfury

Quote from: Nefaro on January 22, 2015, 07:35:04 PM
Looks like that ass rakin' is gonna happen this weekend.   

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RedArgo

Quote from: glen55 on January 23, 2015, 12:15:19 AM
Quote from: RedArgo on January 22, 2015, 10:23:38 PM
I'm not sure what ganking is?

-> snip

It's a MMORPG term for high-level players rampaging on newbies.  In this game it would mean you're cruising along in your beginner yacht with 4 4-pounders when suddenly you are set upon by a Constitution-class frigate.

Ahh, thank you, so that's what has been happening to me all these years, now I can put a name to it.

In the current state of NA, this would be unlikely to happen.  There are two basic battle fields, light ships and all ships, so just stay in light if you are in a small ship. Also, you can't pick your teams, there is a simple match maker that tries to keep the teams even, so there is currently no way to join up with a bunch of experienced players and prey on newbs or me.

Normally, the big ships ignore the small ships until all the other big ships are gone, frequently not firing on them even when the opportunity is there.  This may change as the composition of players changes though.

Nefaro

I don't think you can even join the "All Ships" matches at first until after you get some levelling done. 

It only shows Light Ship PvE and PvP available for my noobidity right now, after just starting.  With the Yacht and Lynx available.