War Thunder Thread

[undercovergeek]

So......

Warthunder ground forces or world of tanks?

[Dread Rlyeh]

I know most of you gents likely prefer realistic or sim, but the lions/match on arcade can be insane.  Personally I enjoy arcade, but even if you find it mildly distasteful, it might be worth an occasional match.  This is obviously not standard, but shows the upper limit at least.  Repair cost for the 2 vehicles is ~2.8k and the ammo cost was only 880.  I haven't played air matches for over a year, but I'm guessing the best lions/min are with groundforces. 

Who knows what the future holds with the upcoming changes with chests, bombing, etc.  Kind of surprised they are going back to the old hover arty view, though they claim it is lower then before.  I dunno if meds need any more boosts, especially with bombing being nerfed.   The 'bonus' in cities from the hover view is insane. 

[Silent Disapproval Robot]

Is that with a premium account or just regular?

[Dread Rlyeh]

Is that with a premium account or just regular?

premium and two premium tanks, though the vast majority was from the panzer IV/70.  I'm in the buy once cry once mode and am most likely going to just build up a reserve of lions and forgo premium until the Brits come out.  Or if I get back into the air battles I guess. 

[Dread Rlyeh]

So......

Warthunder ground forces or world of tanks?

not even close for me, gave up on WOT some time ago.  The engine is a joke, I hate their arty implementation, and hit points are extremely lame.  Yes, you can one shot, but it is rare.  I do sorely wish that WarThunder didn't have so many city maps, but what can you do?   

[Nefaro]

Looping video showing the clean/dirty versions of a Sherman.

http://coub.com/view/53cbj

Hrmm..

A "Dirty Sherman", huh?   Sounds like the nickname for something perverse.

[Nefaro]

I know most of you gents likely prefer realistic or sim, but the lions/match on arcade can be insane.  Personally I enjoy arcade, but even if you find it mildly distasteful, it might be worth an occasional match.  This is obviously not standard, but shows the upper limit at least.  Repair cost for the 2 vehicles is ~2.8k and the ammo cost was only 880.  I haven't played air matches for over a year, but I'm guessing the best lions/min are with groundforces. 

Who knows what the future holds with the upcoming changes with chests, bombing, etc.  Kind of surprised they are going back to the old hover arty view, though they claim it is lower then before.  I dunno if meds need any more boosts, especially with bombing being nerfed.   The 'bonus' in cities from the hover view is insane. 

I believe, on average, the best rewards are in Arcade air battles because you get lots of opportunities to shoot people in a relatively short stretch of time.  After respawning until you're out of crews, you get right back into the action fairly quickly.  So you can rack up a lot of hits, which equal the most points in the game.

My Realistic Air Battles are feast or famine.  If I get one kill, then I'll earn around 26k Lions in one match.  Two or more kills pushes it up over 40k.   46k for a good match is often the take in these good ones.  My poor showings with maybe a hit, but no kill, gets around 8k to 11k which sometimes isn't enough to cover a repair bill in the higher rated planes.

In order to make as many in Arcade as I do in good RBs, I need to kill about three times as many aircraft.   RB and SB on Ground Forces don't seem to give much at all most of the time, from what I recall.  I didn't think Arcade gave all that much more unless you were routinely one-shotting people in a row (admittedly possible with the wonderful JgPzIV/70 if you can keep your front towards enemy  ;) ).

[Dread Rlyeh]

I believe, on average, the best rewards are in Arcade air battles because you get lots of opportunities to shoot people in a relatively short stretch of time.  After respawning until you're out of crews, you get right back into the action fairly quickly.  So you can rack up a lot of hits, which equal the most points in the game.

My Realistic Air Battles are feast or famine.  If I get one kill, then I'll earn around 26k Lions in one match.  Two or more kills pushes it up over 40k.   46k for a good match is often the take in these good ones.  My poor showings with maybe a hit, but no kill, gets around 8k to 11k which sometimes isn't enough to cover a repair bill in the higher rated planes.

In order to make as many in Arcade as I do in good RBs, I need to kill about three times as many aircraft.   RB and SB on Ground Forces don't seem to give much at all most of the time, from what I recall.  I didn't think Arcade gave all that much more unless you were routinely one-shotting people in a row (admittedly possible with the wonderful JgPzIV/70 if you can keep your front towards enemy  ;) ).

If I had to guess, I'm probably averaging 45-50k a match with an avg time of something like 11 min.  A lot depends on your team.  If they don't support your bomber runs or if they don't contest the enemy runs, things can go poorly fast.  Since I usually don't play with a set squad, I'm thinking the bombing nerf (10 seconds until the bombs explode), will on the whole benefit me.  I'm very curious about the chest thing and how that will pan out.  If you can get a decent amount of gold off of that, I will be thrilled!   
   

[Nefaro]

If I had to guess, I'm probably averaging 45-50k a match with an avg time of something like 11 min.   
   

In what?  Ground Forces Arcade battles?

[Silent Disapproval Robot]

So......

Warthunder ground forces or world of tanks?

War Thunder.  It's superior to WoT in all aspects with the possible exception of clan battles.

[Dread Rlyeh]

If I had to guess, I'm probably averaging 45-50k a match with an avg time of something like 11 min.   
   

In what?  Ground Forces Arcade battles?

Yes.  Premium account with at least 1 premium tank (180-200% reward), Tier 3. 

[Nefaro]

One thing Air Arcade Battles definitely improves faster is module research. 

The Lions are offset but I don't think the RP is adjusted much between Arcade and Realistic.   :-\

[Dread Rlyeh]

One thing Air Arcade Battles definitely improves faster is module research. 

The Lions are offset but I don't think the RP is adjusted much between Arcade and Realistic.   :-\

yeah, Gaijin aren't exactly known for balance in all things.  They have done some amazing work, but they manage to contrast that with sheer incompetency.  How long did it take to label the spawn points in GF?  They have 0 concept about spending a few hours (literally) fixing tiny things that vastly improve polish.  Can you even manually reload yet?  How about easily being able to select in which slot you want X ammo? 

I firmly believe in maintaining a strong, devoted core of players for all game modes.  It sure seems like RB and Sim are getting short shrift, especially with the ridiculous ability to remove foliage.  Thankfully, we have some youtubers who are posting videos of just how bad it is.  They really are worth a 1000 angry forum posts, and I think shaming is the only way to get Gaijin to alter their course on anything.  I do hope to enjoy some of the other game modes when I have my tanks fully unlocked and they fix the foliage.  One day :)

According to legend (the forums), the Maus actually seems decent on dev server despite the addition of APCR ammo for Rus Tier V, which they hardly need given the ability of the 122 shrapnel or whatever to penetrate bugged mantlets, etc. 

[W8taminute]

10 second bombing nerf?  What's that?  Does it rake in the Lions fast!

I spend 80% of my time in arcade air where I earn the most Lions per battle.  Then I spend about 15% of my time in arcade land battles where I earn a whopping 900 Lions on a good day per battle.  Something is not right, at least for me, for to only make just about 1k Lions per land battle with 1 kill and maybe 4 or 5 hits is economically not attractive for me. 

Realistic air battles are only slightly more profitable for me Lion wise however I'm learning to fly better in realistic than on arcade.  I've got a spreadsheet setup with all the details that I will share soon.

Finally, I've discovered that mouse flying on a pc in arcade battle is so frikkin easy to kill planes with compared to my performance using a game controller on my console version of the game.  I should have played pc way sooner than on the console.  Playing with the console controller really cripples my ability to look around and fly like the Thunderbirds.  On the other hand whenever I tried playing WT pc version with a flightstick it felt like flying with one hand tied behind your back compared to mousing around. 

[Dread Rlyeh]

10 second bombing nerf?  What's that?  Does it rake in the Lions fast!

My understanding, which could be flawed as I tend to skim the forums every couple weeks, is that bombing in Ground Forces is getting nerfed - bombs will have a 10 second delay before they explode which begins when they impact the ground.  There will also be some sort of icon denoting their location.  As to whether or not that will be +- lions I think it depends on if you play with a squad. 

There are lots of squads which absolutely destroy pubs because they support each other during bombing runs and oppose enemy runs.  Sometimes they will even run a kugel or colien (and also quickly get their own bombing runs due to fighter/bomber kills) which can easily run a bombers day.  So, I think its a nerf to squad lion/min because, at least in arcade, bombing wins games.  IS-4 annoying you (T3 version of that is KV2), can't cap with him there?  Bombing run!   As a mostly solo player, I'm happy.  My P IV/70 is revving its engine as we speak :)