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Anguille

#61
April 18, 2015, 02:34:53 AM
Quote from: spelk on April 18, 2015, 02:18:33 AM
Review - 6/10
http://www.pcgamesn.com/stardrive-2/stardrive-2-review

Yeah...the all-War thing isn't really my thing and i do hope he brings in more victory conditions. I usually like to play like the Federation of Planets (Star Trek)...that's more my style. At least, i don't usually play to wipe out all the races. Still on my list.

W8taminute

#62
April 18, 2015, 10:46:47 AM
^^I agree this game is all about wiping out your foes.  I don't mind that because sometimes when you try to make a game that is slapped together just to please everyone's diplomatic tastes you get a mediocre game.  Is Star Drive 2 a mediocre space conquest game?  Perhaps, but I'm liking it.  Sometimes one just wants to play a game where the goal is wiping out all the other empires.  Keeps things simple. 
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Romulan Commander to Kirk

Martok

#63
April 18, 2015, 02:49:19 PM
I have to admit my ardor for SD2 has cooled a bit. 


I like most of the mechanics, I enjoy most of the gameplay...but the "all war, all the time" thing is not for me.  Even on Easy difficulty, it seems like all the AI-controlled races are all purposefully gunning for me (solely because I'm the human player, not because I'm the most powerful empire), and that's simply not fun.  That sort of behavior really breaks immersion for me, which is a pity given the atmosphere/immersion is done so well in other areas of the game. 

In addition, the fact that the AI cheats plays by different rules is also something of a turn-off.  That it automatically knows where all the good planets are, and can shoot down my colony ships in its space without declaring war (but not vice-versa) irritates me to no end.  (The fact that the AI is allowed to colonize inside my space * at all* -- at least sans a declaration of war -- irritates me in the first place, but it would be at least tolerable if we played by the same rules!)  Dan can say the AI "doesn't cheat" all he likes, but honestly I'm not sure that's even true by the letter of the law, much less the spirit. 



Stardrive 2 is a fun enough game.  It does a lot of things right, and it's definitely a major improvement over the original.  For now, however, I think I'm going to be putting it on the back-burner. 

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Bison

#64
April 18, 2015, 03:07:22 PM
I'm done with the game.  The fact I get exactly 3 ships built before I'm invaded by significantly larger enemy fleets is too much.  Lose fleet and colony and rebuild for the same exact thing to happen again in a few turns is not fun at all.   

bbmike

#65
April 18, 2015, 03:48:45 PM
I have to agree with you guys. There does some to be something 'gamey' going on with the AI.
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RedArgo

#66
April 18, 2015, 06:10:56 PM
After reading your guy's comments I'm glad I held off on this one.  Maybe Zero will balance it more in the future, then I'll revisit it.

Huw the Poo

#67
April 18, 2015, 06:24:27 PM
Quote from: RedArgo on April 18, 2015, 06:10:56 PM
Maybe Zero will balance it more in the future, then I'll revisit it.

He doesn't exactly have form in this regard, unfortunately.

Sparhawk

#68
April 18, 2015, 07:07:14 PM Last Edit: April 18, 2015, 07:09:35 PM by Sparhawk
rethinking post

W8taminute

#69
April 18, 2015, 07:15:55 PM
I'm on my third game now and just started a war with my neighbor.  After I destroyed his 10 ship fleet that invaded my space he sent two fleets with 20 ships each.  The player is severely constrained by a draconian command point limit keeping his overall fleet size small.  I see no such limits being imposed on the ai. 

Still though, I'm going to keep playing to see if I can come up with a strategy to beat the game.  I still like it but maybe because it offers me a light game to fill in the time when I get brain tired of playing WitE. 

I do agree with the others that there is something gamey about Star Drive 2 but I'm going to crack this nut.
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Romulan Commander to Kirk

Jarhead0331

#70
April 18, 2015, 08:14:39 PM
Quote from: RedArgo on April 18, 2015, 06:10:56 PM
Maybe Zero will balance it more in the future, then I'll revisit it.

He may, but it will be called Stardrive 3... :-X
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Freyland

#71
April 18, 2015, 09:23:57 PM
Funny enough, on my first game (Easy) I have had none of the issues of facing fleets bigger than mine, or having the AI do anything in my space.  In fact, my territory is either the biggest or second biggest of the four players.  And, I am no genius at these games.  My interest is dwindling rather because the game really doesn't seem to "reward" me much, so it feels like a lot of end turn button pressing.  Furthermore, I keep reading about flaws in the design system for power usage, and that the limited design choices the AI has available limit their effectiveness.  I guess one of the patches tries to alleviate that last part by occasionally having the AI lift some of your designs.  Just having trouble staying motivated with so many other choices in my backlog (and more coming out every week!).

Martok

#73
April 23, 2015, 08:42:02 AM
"Like we need an excuse to drink to anything..." - Banzai_Cat
"I like to think of it not as an excuse but more like Pavlovian Response." - Sir Slash

"At our ages, they all look like jailbait." - mirth

"If we had lines here that would have crossed all of them. For the 1,077,986th time." - Gusington

"Government is so expensive that it should at least be entertaining." - airboy

"As long as there's bacon, everything will be all right." - Toonces

Yskonyn

#74
April 23, 2015, 09:13:10 AM
I think I am going to pass on both SD2 and SR2 from the reports I've seen on here. I am already in the beta program for GalCiv 3, which releases in May and I think that is a game which much better suits my 4x itch.
On a high note; this newyears resolution of not buying any new games is going well for me!  O0
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