Sovereignty: Crown of Kings enters Early Access

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mikeck

What is the purpose of having chips? I haven't really played enable power so can you have naval battles or do you use them to blockade or something like that?
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tgb

Quote from: mikeck on April 18, 2015, 09:57:32 PM
What is the purpose of having chips?

If you have access to the quacamole resource, you can build awesome wind-powered units.

-budd-

Quote from: mikeck on April 18, 2015, 09:57:32 PM
What is the purpose of having chips? I haven't really played enable power so can you have naval battles or do you use them to blockade or something like that?

I haven't played a navel country either. I am playing the own 200 provinces victory condition, my plan was to board some units and go to war with someone other than my neighbors to start, while trying to keep good relations with my bordering nations.Not even sure if you can transport units via ship at this point i just assumed you could. Guess i could look if the ships have a carry capacity. Since i don't have a harbor, and i notice[now] that a lot of coastal regions don't have harbors, and the nearest harbor is a few provinces away. I may restart.
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Quote from: tgb on April 18, 2015, 10:07:47 PM
Quote from: mikeck on April 18, 2015, 09:57:32 PM
What is the purpose of having chips?

If you have access to the quacamole resource, you can build awesome wind-powered units.


I'd build Salsa Sharks.  With lasers on their heads.


-budd-

Quote from: MetalDog on April 18, 2015, 09:15:07 PM
There are five icons in the unit build screen, Infantry, Archer, Cavalry, Ships and Siege.  Four of them are clickable and when clicked, show the units available to be built in the middle of the screen.  The units are darkened if I don't have the resources to build the unit and lit up if I do.  The Ships icon is dark, unclickable and shows nothing when I hover over it.  I have 9 Lumber. 

Now, it may be that I still don't have enough of the proper Resource(s), but if that was the case, I should still be able to see the units available to be built by me in the middle of the screen.  I can't, so, that's not it. 

I have a harbor.  If that was the only requirement for building ships, I should be able to see the ships available to be built, regardless of resources.  So that's not it.

So, what does that logically leave as possible answers?

this may help Metal Dog
from the steam forum

Hi budd,

Actually realms can only build ships if they own a harbor. Ravengard has to win a harbor before it gets to build those ships.

Mostly this applies to human conventional armies. Some realms (such as the elves) board their swan ships directly by simply moving a land unit to sea. This converts the land unit into a transport ship.

Breca
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tgb

To clarify what Brecca said, all units can be moved out to sea directly without building transports.  The difference is with most realms you can only do it from a province with a port.  Oh, and beware of seasickness.  It can really mess up an amphibious invasion.

I haven't played a naval power since the beginning of the beta testing period, but I don't recall hearing about that changing.

Ian C

#141
It has been reported that there's a bug where the AI can fill up an entire sea zone with ships (there is a stacking limit), if this happens, other sea vessels cannot leave ports adjacent to the sea zone:

See here:
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=175&t=63866


Bug reports are made here:
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=175

Some nations don't start with a navy, a port or the resources needed to build ships. The only way to get them is to capture a port province or trade for the resources.

Martok

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-budd-

I'm getting no where playing Ravengard, and i picked the 200 province victory conditions......WTH was i thinking :uglystupid2:
About to go on the attack on my great campaign of conquest and i get attacked and lose 5 provinces so have to use my armies to take them back, wasn't a serious threat but time and resources had to be used. Finally got sick of the Moth%# Fu^%er and took his capital, of course we know how that goes....everyone and there mother gets pissed at me..especially my big neighbors who i have to keep happy for now and that i'm trying desperately to make an alliance with so i can attack the other way. Then the little fu**ers from the sea declare war and start dropping in on my provinces, no serious threat but time and resources again. There's about 9 or 10 different realms camping off my coast line just waiting to pounce.
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Quote from: -budd- on April 19, 2015, 12:54:56 PMFinally got sick of the Moth%# Fu^%er and took his capital, of course we know how that goes....everyone and there mother gets pissed at me..

There are some circumstances where annexing the capital province does not impact global relations. I'm playing as the Boruvian Empire and in the scenario I'm playing I was able to annex Berany and Galani without incident because the Valagorn Palatinate says it's ok.

If anyone missed it, you can view your advisor's advice by clicking on the small circles on your realm card. This is where I found the diplomatic info.

Martok

Quote from: -budd- on April 19, 2015, 12:54:56 PM
I'm getting no where playing Ravengard, and i picked the 200 province victory conditions......WTH was i thinking :uglystupid2:
I'm pretty sure that regardless of which faction I'm playing as, I'll be going with the storyline campaign 90% of the time.  Much less tedious (and probably more interesting) that simply trying to take 200 provinces and/or conquering the entire bloody map. 

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MetalDog

So I spent some time with Sonneneve again today.  After one attempt to take the two provinces of mine that bordered the ocean region, Ariselle and Calland quit attacking.  That left Cragenwaste and Dunmar.  The others that I am at war with are too far and can't reach me. 

I was originally going to attack Cragenwaste for the Gem and Iron Resources they possessed, but they did me the favor of declaring on me first.  Dunmar joined a couple of turns later and started pressing on the provinces I took from Palemoor (which started this fershluginer war in the first place!).  I managed to take four provinces from Cragenwaste and surround a fifth province before I agreed to peace and had to cough up one of the provinces I was occupying but hadn't annexed.

Dunmar captured Coldmist and Neivoinen from me before I was able to bring the troops I was using against Cragenwaste to bear.  I attacked the province adjacent to Dunmar's capitol, so, when I attacked the capitol, I could do so from land rather than across the water from Coldsmith.  Vessoi is also at war with Dunmar and has been actively attacking the northern reaches of Dunmar, leaving a couple of provinces to fall to me just by providing an occupation force.  Right around this time, a Druid Hero appeared and offered her services to lead my armies.  That's all I needed to complete the subjugation of Dunmar.  My envoy is on the way to broker peace with them now.

Which leads me to Riesental.  One of my victory conditions is to ally with the other two Elf factions, Aevinwode and Sirucil.  Almost as soon as the game started, I allied the former.  And one turn after that, Riesental declared war on my ally.  Now.  The second reason for originally attacking Cragenwaste was to take the right provinces and end up on Riesental's northern border.  Dunmar also had a province on that border, so once I made peace with Cragenwaste, I had to continue with Dunmar no matter what if I was going to honor my alliance with Aevinwode.  And if I calculated correctly, my diplomat will arrive in Dunmar's capitol and agree to peace just in time for me to take two provinces and have my army kicked out of the capitol one turn before I annex it and make things REALLY bad for myself!

Oh, and I found that if you activate troops and move them in to a Harbour, they will turn in to Transports (which I believe someone above already told me).  However, I was unable to move them up or down the river, so, I reloaded and went on about my business.
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