Sale at Martix Games! 6-12 June.

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LongBlade

Quote from: Bison on June 05, 2012, 09:06:12 PM
Quote from: TheCommandTent on June 05, 2012, 09:04:09 PM
Quote from: Bison on June 05, 2012, 08:15:40 PM
BftB is an awesome operational game.  Its been a few months since I played the HttR expansion but it is certainly worth the money even if not on sale.

How easy is to get into if I have not really played many operational games before?

If you take the time to watch the excellent tutorial videos, its pretty easy to play.  That being said there is a lot of depth to the game that will take some time to understand.

Big +1

There are a number of video tutorials. It will take time to figure the game out, but the tutorials break it down and make it very accessible. Get it, you won't be sorry. At this price it's a must-buy.
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

TheCommandTent

Quote from: LongBlade on June 05, 2012, 09:27:50 PM
Quote from: Bison on June 05, 2012, 09:06:12 PM
Quote from: TheCommandTent on June 05, 2012, 09:04:09 PM
Quote from: Bison on June 05, 2012, 08:15:40 PM
BftB is an awesome operational game.  Its been a few months since I played the HttR expansion but it is certainly worth the money even if not on sale.

How easy is to get into if I have not really played many operational games before?

If you take the time to watch the excellent tutorial videos, its pretty easy to play.  That being said there is a lot of depth to the game that will take some time to understand.

Big +1

There are a number of video tutorials. It will take time to figure the game out, but the tutorials break it down and make it very accessible. Get it, you won't be sorry. At this price it's a must-buy.

You guys know that my wife hates it when you talk to me all reasonable like....

I am very tempted we'll see what happens when the sale starts tomorrow.
"No wants, no needs, we weren't meant for that, none of us.  Man stagnates if he has no ambition, no desire to be more than he is."

Bison


Con

It took me a long time to like the Command Ops games.  I picked up Conquest of the Agean for cheap and I kept banging my head on the wall with it because it was a game that you feel that as a true aficionado of wargames you should enjoy.

I kept starting and then dropping it.  Then one day it began to click and I began to understand the rhythm of the game, thinking with time and distance and how best to use the units so that they are positioned in the right place at the right time.  Suddenly the game went from frustration to sublime and its my go to game when I travel.  Command Ops Battle of the Bulge and Highway raised the bar even higher.  Now my frustration is like a crack addict I keep coming back to certain scenarios trying to find a way to weasle a victory.  "Curse you Elsenborn Ridge".  I will win this scenario at greater than a marginal victory as the German commander someday!  (No kidding I think I must have played this scenario to conclusion a half dozen times and maybe a dozen more to various stages trying out different and unsuccessful strategies).  Hope that gives you an idea of how much enjoyment and value for money these games bring.

Con

LongBlade

Quote from: Con on June 05, 2012, 10:13:22 PMNow my frustration is like a crack addict I keep coming back to certain scenarios trying to find a way to weasle a victory.  "Curse you Elsenborn Ridge".  I will win this scenario at greater than a marginal victory as the German commander someday!  (No kidding I think I must have played this scenario to conclusion a half dozen times and maybe a dozen more to various stages trying out different and unsuccessful strategies). 

Con

+1
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

jomni

#20
BFTB is a great game.  I have it but don't play it a lot.  It hasn't caught my fancy as much as the other games.  With so many games vying for my attention, BTFB is a wallflower.

Anguille

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You guys know that my wife hates it when you talk to me all reasonable like....

I am very tempted we'll see what happens when the sale starts tomorrow.
lol...same here!

ComradeP

The BftB sale is nice for those who don't own the game yet and want it. The Battle Academy DLC prices are also nice.

I still think Matrix could lower prices from time to time. Sales like this illustrate that the prices of some games remain quite high even years after release. Look at Battles in Normandy, for example. I doubt many people will think "wow, a game released in 2004 is now 15 dollars cheaper and now costs 35 bucks, what a steal!"

A policy of minimal to no price reductions over time isn't going to lure in many more casual customers.
The fact that these people drew inspiration...and then became chicken farmers - Cyrano, Dragon' Up The Past #45

Rayfer

You got that right ComradeP....Battles in Normandy has always been of interest to me, I even played the demo and liked it.  But $35 is still steep for an 8 year old game.  I appreciate what Matrix is doing with the sale, but some of these really old titles might sell better with a bit more of a cut.  Just my opinion. 

Jack Nastyface

I'm interested in the Close Combat titles...anyone have any recommendations?  I am leaning towards the Market-Garden (arnhem) or Overlord (d-day) titles.
Now, the problem is, how to divide five Afghans from three mules and have two Englishmen left over.

Bison

Quote from: Jack Nastyface on June 06, 2012, 11:00:03 PM
I'm interested in the Close Combat titles...anyone have any recommendations?  I am leaning towards the Market-Garden (arnhem) or Overlord (d-day) titles.

Those are IMO the better 2 remakes of the 4.  I enjoyed TLD alot, but that is most likely due to the fact I played it the most.

Anguille

Got myself the Operationnal Art of War III and Operation Sealion for Battlefield academy.

I am falling more and more to the wargame side of the force....

ComradeP

Jack Nastyface: the recent super patch probably made all titles worth your money, although it does depend on what front/WWII period you're most interested in.
The fact that these people drew inspiration...and then became chicken farmers - Cyrano, Dragon' Up The Past #45

LongBlade

Quote from: anguille on June 07, 2012, 02:09:37 AM
Got myself the Operationnal Art of War III and Operation Sealion for Battlefield academy.

I am falling more and more to the wargame side of the force....

Battle Academy is a nice intro game. Not a true wargame but it's a good starter. TOAW is a solid wargame. You're on to a classic. Look for custom scenarios for it.
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

TheCommandTent

I got a TOAW a couple of years ago and really struggled getting parts of the game.   I played through some tutorials and read some guides.  I even had someone offer to play a game with me where he would coach me through it and help me learn.  Needless to say he wasn't very helpful and just rolled over me mercilessly.  :-\  Needless to say that did not help me enjoy the game and I don't think I've touched it since then.

I should maybe reinstall it and give it another go.
"No wants, no needs, we weren't meant for that, none of us.  Man stagnates if he has no ambition, no desire to be more than he is."