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mirth

May 20, 2015, 12:16:18 PM
"45 minutes of pooping Tribbles being juggled by a drunken Horta would be better than Season 1 of TNG." - SirAndrewD

"you don't look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire" - Bawb

"Can't 'un' until you 'pre', son." - Gus

Centurion40

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May 20, 2015, 12:17:19 PM Last Edit: May 20, 2015, 12:34:30 PM by Centurion40
Opinions are like assholes, as they say.

That being said, it doesn't mean that Pegg is wrong in creating a movie that will earn the studio as much money as a Marvel movie.
Any time is a good time for pie.

mirth

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May 20, 2015, 12:33:21 PM
Unfortunately this particular asshole is co-writing the next movie.

The reboots have been completely "Un-Star Trek-y".  And now they're going to try to mainstream it further?

QuoteHe further explained "People don't see it being a fun, brightly coloured, Saturday night entertainment like the Avengers," adding that the solution was to "make a Western or a thriller or a heist movie, then populate that with Star Trek characters so it's more inclusive to an audience that might be a little bit reticent."

Just make a decent goddamned Star Trek movie!!!  >:(
"45 minutes of pooping Tribbles being juggled by a drunken Horta would be better than Season 1 of TNG." - SirAndrewD

"you don't look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire" - Bawb

"Can't 'un' until you 'pre', son." - Gus

OJsDad

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May 20, 2015, 01:18:30 PM
Quote from: mirth on May 20, 2015, 12:33:21 PM
Just make a decent goddamned Star Trek movie!!!  >:(

How do define a decent Star Trek movie?
'Here at NASA we all pee the same color.'  Al Harrison from the movie Hidden Figures.

mirth

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May 20, 2015, 02:12:17 PM
Quote from: OJsDad on May 20, 2015, 01:18:30 PM
Quote from: mirth on May 20, 2015, 12:33:21 PM
Just make a decent goddamned Star Trek movie!!!  >:(

How do define a decent Star Trek movie?

Wrath of Khan

First Contact

"45 minutes of pooping Tribbles being juggled by a drunken Horta would be better than Season 1 of TNG." - SirAndrewD

"you don't look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire" - Bawb

"Can't 'un' until you 'pre', son." - Gus

bbmike

#5
May 20, 2015, 02:23:08 PM
+1 to everything mirth posted!  O0
"My life is spent in one long effort to escape from the commonplace of existence."
-Sherlock Holmes

"You know, just once I'd like to meet an alien menace that wasn't immune to bullets."
-Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart

"There's a horror movie called Alien? That's really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you!"
-The Doctor

"Before Man goes to the stars he should learn how to live on Earth."
-Clifford D. Simak

Martok

#6
May 20, 2015, 02:45:28 PM
Quote from: mirth on May 20, 2015, 12:33:21 PM
Unfortunately this particular asshole is co-writing the next movie.

The reboots have been completely "Un-Star Trek-y".  And now they're going to try to mainstream it further?

QuoteHe further explained "People don't see it being a fun, brightly coloured, Saturday night entertainment like the Avengers," adding that the solution was to "make a Western or a thriller or a heist movie, then populate that with Star Trek characters so it's more inclusive to an audience that might be a little bit reticent."

Just make a decent goddamned Star Trek movie!!!  >:(
Unfortunately, I think we're stuck relying on fan-based projects for that, mirth.  Personally, I'm waiting/hoping on Prelude to Axanar. 

"Like we need an excuse to drink to anything..." - Banzai_Cat
"I like to think of it not as an excuse but more like Pavlovian Response." - Sir Slash

"At our ages, they all look like jailbait." - mirth

"If we had lines here that would have crossed all of them. For the 1,077,986th time." - Gusington

"Government is so expensive that it should at least be entertaining." - airboy

"As long as there's bacon, everything will be all right." - Toonces

mirth

#7
May 20, 2015, 02:52:11 PM
Axanar is very promising, based on that 20 minute trailer they did.
"45 minutes of pooping Tribbles being juggled by a drunken Horta would be better than Season 1 of TNG." - SirAndrewD

"you don't look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire" - Bawb

"Can't 'un' until you 'pre', son." - Gus

Martok

#8
May 20, 2015, 02:56:47 PM
Agreed.  I'm pretty stoked for it! 

"Like we need an excuse to drink to anything..." - Banzai_Cat
"I like to think of it not as an excuse but more like Pavlovian Response." - Sir Slash

"At our ages, they all look like jailbait." - mirth

"If we had lines here that would have crossed all of them. For the 1,077,986th time." - Gusington

"Government is so expensive that it should at least be entertaining." - airboy

"As long as there's bacon, everything will be all right." - Toonces

Nefaro

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May 20, 2015, 04:15:21 PM Last Edit: May 20, 2015, 04:17:34 PM by Nefaro
Quote from: OJsDad on May 20, 2015, 01:18:30 PM
Quote from: mirth on May 20, 2015, 12:33:21 PM
Just make a decent goddamned Star Trek movie!!!  >:(

How do define a decent Star Trek movie?


Star Trek ship battles, with sparks shooting, people flying over consoles,  short but brief references about killing/vengeance, and mostly just sequences of ships maneuvering & shooting the piss out of each other for two hours.

Wrath Of Khan is the only one that came near.   The Undiscovered Country was only slightly in the vicinity.   The rest were BLECH, especially after the original cast was gone.

Frankly, a sizable portion of the Star Trek writing after TOS/C has been saddled with enough fantastical Space Hippy Society nonsense to set off the Believability Detectors.  It often seemed to be focused more on moralizing than a fun sci-fi romp filled with conflict.  :-\  We need more of the latter.  The last two were okay but still missed something.. especially the last one that pillaged the best of the bunch and didn't turn out as well as the original.  >:(

mirth

#10
May 20, 2015, 05:38:25 PM
The first reboot movie was okay. Better than I expected.

Into Darkness was decidedly 'meh'. A completely unnecessary film. And it still made $500 million.
"45 minutes of pooping Tribbles being juggled by a drunken Horta would be better than Season 1 of TNG." - SirAndrewD

"you don't look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire" - Bawb

"Can't 'un' until you 'pre', son." - Gus

bbmike

#11
May 20, 2015, 06:27:38 PM
Ok, -1 to that last mirth post. Neither reboot movie was Star Trek.  :uglystupid2:
"My life is spent in one long effort to escape from the commonplace of existence."
-Sherlock Holmes

"You know, just once I'd like to meet an alien menace that wasn't immune to bullets."
-Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart

"There's a horror movie called Alien? That's really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you!"
-The Doctor

"Before Man goes to the stars he should learn how to live on Earth."
-Clifford D. Simak

Nefaro

#12
May 20, 2015, 06:30:54 PM
The true ST fans here probably just put me on Ignore after my rant.  ;D

Don't feel bad Mirth.  :P

bbmike

#13
May 20, 2015, 06:33:09 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on May 20, 2015, 06:30:54 PM
The true ST fans here probably just put me on Ignore after my rant.  ;D

Don't feel bad Mirth.  :P

I have to admit I did look for that option on the Groghead forums.  :P
"My life is spent in one long effort to escape from the commonplace of existence."
-Sherlock Holmes

"You know, just once I'd like to meet an alien menace that wasn't immune to bullets."
-Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart

"There's a horror movie called Alien? That's really offensive. No wonder everyone keeps invading you!"
-The Doctor

"Before Man goes to the stars he should learn how to live on Earth."
-Clifford D. Simak

bayonetbrant

#14
May 20, 2015, 06:54:15 PM
The IGN article edited out some context to the Pegg quotes

Read this version
http://www.blastr.com/2015-5-19/simon-pegg-says-he-was-hired-make-star-trek-3-less-star-trek-y

It sounds like it's the studio guys (and not Pegg) complaining about how ST compares to Avengers, not Pegg.  And that they hired Pegg to try to make ST more accessible to the Avengers audience, rather than just Trekkies.  It sounds like Pegg is regurgitating the argument the studio made to him, and not necessarily his own views.
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