Do you like your games to rate you?

MarkShot · June 10, 2012, 02:19:25 PM

Until I started playing Chess, the concept of a game actually rating me was totally foreign. Generally, it was just win or lose to varying degrees. Of course, getting pasted could hurt your ego, but the next game was a clean slate.

With many of the Chess games I have, they rate you.

The good:

* You get a sense of progress or lack of.

* The engine dynamically adjusts its play. So, you should get a good game. Studies show that winning 1:4 is the best ratio to promote development.

The negative:

* You get discouraged from playing if you're tired, it has been a long day, or you are going to get interrupted or disturbed during the game.

So, how do you feel? Do you like to be rated by your games? Or would you prefer that they had no memory?

Nefaro · June 10, 2012, 02:22:45 PM

I like it.

It's an extra bonus in games where you're supposed to lose all the time, like the Roguelikes. ;D Seeing how far you can survive is fun.

Bison · June 10, 2012, 06:32:57 PM

CM rates me all the time. Minor Defeat! Major Defeat!!! /sigh/

MarkShot · June 10, 2012, 06:37:21 PM

Yes, but I am talking about rating that sticks with you for the life of the installation.

Bison · June 10, 2012, 06:40:06 PM

Quote from: MarkShot on June 10, 2012, 06:37:21 PM
Yes, but I am talking about rating that sticks with you for the life of the installation.

Other than Fritz12 chess I cannot think of any I own that do rankings of that nature.

Windigo · June 10, 2012, 06:54:51 PM

yes.... why not?

get an alternate account if you just want to play fer fun and a main account when you are bullet proof in bullet time

Bison · June 10, 2012, 06:57:18 PM

Quote from: Windigo on June 10, 2012, 06:54:51 PM
yes.... why not?

get an alternate account if you just want to play fer fun and a main account when you are bullet proof in bullet time

Uh...what the hell are you talking about Windy?

MarkShot · June 10, 2012, 07:01:37 PM

I have Fritz, Shredder, TChessPro which all function like that. CM11 I believe has rated games but I never tried it. Mainly, because CM11 has personalities. So, I usual let that drive my game play.

Before chess, my skill level in games was self perceived, and challenge was self tweaked.

Bison · June 10, 2012, 07:02:55 PM

Quote from: MarkShot on June 10, 2012, 07:01:37 PM
I have Fritz, Shredder, TChessPro which all function like that. CM11 I believe has rated games but I never tried it. Mainly, because CM11 has personalities. So, I usual let that drive my game play.

Before chess, my skill level in games was self perceived, and challenge was self tweaked.

I've come to accept the fact that I'm not nearly as good at chess as I liked to pretend I was.

Windigo · June 10, 2012, 07:06:47 PM

Quote from: Bison on June 10, 2012, 06:57:18 PM
Quote from: Windigo on June 10, 2012, 06:54:51 PM
yes.... why not?

get an alternate account if you just want to play fer fun and a main account when you are bullet proof in bullet time

Uh...what the hell are you talking about Windy?

many online games rank you - like World of Tanks. every aspect of the game can be put down into stats e.g., shots fired, shots that hit, shots that damage, etc.. ..... if you are just wanting to goof off and have fun, you can really degrade your record so guys like me create second accounts for those times they just want to goof off

my apologies if this was a just about chess thread

MarkShot · June 10, 2012, 07:08:36 PM

The use of multiple personas is possible for some, but not all.

TChessPro upon requesting a new game prompts whether you want it rated or not.

Also, I should add that most allow the choice of a fixed rated opponent as opposed to a dynamic one.

I think the chess approach is interesting. It is probably due to how critical ratings is in anything but casual chess and the fact that few AIs have been as heavily researched and developed as chess.

Bison · June 10, 2012, 07:09:28 PM

Quote from: Windigo on June 10, 2012, 07:06:47 PM
Quote from: Bison on June 10, 2012, 06:57:18 PM
Quote from: Windigo on June 10, 2012, 06:54:51 PM
yes.... why not?

get an alternate account if you just want to play fer fun and a main account when you are bullet proof in bullet time

Uh...what the hell are you talking about Windy?

many online games rank you - like World of Tanks. every aspect of the game can be put down into stats e.g., shots fired, shots that hit, shots that damage, etc.. ..... if you are just wanting to goof off and have fun, you can really degrade your record so guys like me create second accounts for those times they just want to goof off

my apologies if this was a just about chess thread

No I was just confused is all. Carry on.

MarkShot · June 10, 2012, 07:13:06 PM

No this is not a solely a chess thread, but a game design and player psychology thread. I both like ratings and a dynamic opponent and also tend to not play as much due to them. I feel as if my games are being watched by my peers sneering at me!

MarkShot · June 10, 2012, 07:19:24 PM

Bison,

The AI of chess is so advanced and training materials so sophisticated, it hard for all but a few hundred people in the World not to feel like idiots when it comes to Chess. But that is what mainly pulled me in. It is one AI that I will never reach a day where it is not worthy of me. Not on the PC. Not on the iPad. Not on the Mephisto handheld.

Bison · June 10, 2012, 07:24:20 PM

I just wish that the version of Fritz12 I have used multiple cores, but that is not an option unless I were to upgrade over my $20 version of the game.