The "Uber" Command: Modern Air/Naval Ops Thread

Yskonyn · October 24, 2015, 03:17:01 PM

I appreciate the prompt responses, Dimitris, Pete and Kushan. As a reward I just bought NI. ;)

I never thought about using Unassign in this context. Thank you.
The benefit of Dimitris' tip over altering the ROE is that you get a msg when the unit goes RTB and you can react accordingly. If you alter it in the ROE, you will likely miss cues in a unit heavy scenario because they don't give feedback anymore.

That makes me wonder; if a unit RTB'd due to being Winchester and you cancel that by Unassigning it and take manual control, will it generate a msg once it becomes Bingo?
If not, that would be a grand addition to the system.

Nevermind, I pulled my head out of my arse, cause I already know its there.

Dimitris · October 24, 2015, 03:24:43 PM

Double Team: Get CMANO and NI together and save 23% until October 29!

Grim.Reaper · October 25, 2015, 07:22:16 AM

In my quest to not totally give up, had some reasonably good times this morning.....still don't know fully what the heck I am doing, but good times nonetheless:) Played a very small scenario, basically patrolling Libyan waters, had fun shooting down a few aircraft, destroying some surface ships/subs....but to my horror, I accidentely destroyed some neutrals:) Going to need to show some weapon release restraint...things can get busy real fast so going to need to master how to control/monitor all these assets at once.

mirth · October 25, 2015, 08:28:34 AM

Quote from: Grim.Reaper on October 25, 2015, 07:22:16 AM
In my quest to not totally give up, had some reasonably good times this morning.....still don't know fully what the heck I am doing, but good times nonetheless:) Played a very small scenario, basically patrolling Libyan waters, had fun shooting down a few aircraft, destroying some surface ships/subs....but to my horror, I accidentely destroyed some neutrals:) Going to need to show some weapon release restraint...things can get busy real fast so going to need to master how to control/monitor all these assets at once.

pfft...you're really going to half to get over the killing neutrals thing :P

Grim.Reaper · October 25, 2015, 04:53:29 PM

You know you have an illness when one day your stating how difficult the game is and then the very next day you buy the expansion pack:)

Hello, my name is grim.reaper and I have a gaming problem.....

Con · October 25, 2015, 05:22:48 PM

LOL +1 you can count me in on this illness as well. Its contagious

Con

DoctorQuest · October 25, 2015, 06:03:41 PM

At the end of the day isn't that why we are all here?

mikeck · October 25, 2015, 07:52:51 PM

I've learned two things from playing this game over the last year. First, the F-35 is so far beyond the capabilities of gen 4 that's it's not fair. Whether it's taking out a target with JASM or internal JSOW or whether it's ambushing a bunch of Enemy aircraft and escaping undetected...it's almost too easy.

Second, the U.S. Navy had a major brain fart when- for the last 20 years- they decided the main mission of the Navy was land attack. All this money on tomahawk upgrades and ballistic missile defense so we could get in tomahawk range...and no way for a big ass US destroyer to kill an enemy ship. Think about it. Most ships don't have harpoon boxes (even if they did they are slow, non stealthy and therefor, dead) and to kill a ship with SM-2s or SM-6s you have to be close and hit it ALOT. I'm a captain of the U.S. Arleigh Burke. I'm in a combat zone and identify 2 enemy frigates approaching. But I can't kill them. Now the NAVY is rushing production on the LRASM for that reason. Unbelievable

Kushan · October 25, 2015, 08:18:22 PM

Quote from: mikeck on October 25, 2015, 07:52:51 PM
I've learned two things from playing this game over the last year. First, the F-35 is so far beyond the capabilities of gen 4 that's it's not fair. Whether it's taking out a target with JASM or internal JSOW or whether it's ambushing a bunch of Enemy aircraft and escaping undetected...it's almost too easy.

Second, the U.S. Navy had a major brain fart when- for the last 20 years- they decided the main mission of the Navy was land attack. All this money on tomahawk upgrades and ballistic missile defense so we could get in tomahawk range...and no way for a big ass US destroyer to kill an enemy ship. Think about it. Most ships don't have harpoon boxes (even if they did they are slow, non stealthy and therefor, dead) and to kill a ship with SM-2s or SM-6s you have to be close and hit it ALOT. I'm a captain of the U.S. Arleigh Burke. I'm in a combat zone and identify 2 enemy frigates approaching. But I can't kill them. Now the NAVY is rushing production on the LRASM for that reason. Unbelievable

I was an F-35 skeptic then I used it in a scenario I was making. If it works half as well in real life as it does the game then any potential OPFOR is ****** when it gets into full service. One of the scenario ideas I've been tossing around lately is a US fleet defense scenario comparing different combinations of the F-35, F-18C/E/F and AST-21.

That's because the current way of thinking is that subs are the main ASuW platform. Still its stupid not any ASuw capability on the surface force.

Yskonyn · October 26, 2015, 12:28:34 AM

Is the lack of surface to surface capability on US ships something that changed during the cold war? The ships in WW2's Pacific Theatre were pretty capable of returning devastating shots still.
I'd be interested to know more about the why!

mikeck · October 26, 2015, 12:30:31 PM

It changed in the 1990s. I think the U.S. Navy wanted to remain relevant while they realize that there were no for navies that could even come close to competing for control of the seas. By transforming into a ship to shore attack roll the Navy insured it could be part of any operation. Now are faced with the Chinese lady which is growing in power and we are ill-equipped to deal with ship to ship combat.

Dimitris · October 26, 2015, 12:46:56 PM

BTW, if you guys have ever wondered why devs in general are reluctant to discuss tech details (of bugs, fixes, new features etc.) with the public, here's an example of why: http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3124262#post3124262

mirth · October 26, 2015, 01:19:08 PM

Quote from: Dimitris on October 26, 2015, 12:46:56 PM
BTW, if you guys have ever wondered why devs in general are reluctant to discuss tech details (of bugs, fixes, new features etc.) with the public, here's an example of why: http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3124262#post3124262

It's a mistake to draw any attention to Herman. That's exactly what he wants. Responding to him at ACG is one thing, but we all know his schtick.

mikeck · October 26, 2015, 01:47:25 PM

Exactly. The game is certainly not buggy. I felt he was nit-picking when he first did his review and said as much. Just his thing. You guys out out a good game and support it. I've had my issues with some people on the matrix forum long ago but never with the game

Con · October 26, 2015, 01:59:23 PM

I commend you guys for not lowering yourself to feeding the troll. Its what he is looking for and starving him of attention is far more effective than any type of discourse.

I dont know how you do it since I would be pissed if a project I worked on and labored over and loved was consistently and fanatically criticized by one individual with an agenda.

Con