Holy crap, BMS 4.33 is out NOW and none of you told me!!!11!

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Grim.Reaper

#15
October 31, 2015, 08:18:48 AM
I know this will sound odd, but I usually do direct downloads and haven't messed with torrent files so far.....is their a specific recommended application I should use?

Toonces

#16
October 31, 2015, 08:52:18 AM
Quote from: RyanE on October 31, 2015, 07:58:05 AM
Two questions...can it be downloaded without registering on the BMS site?

...and do the non-F-16 planes still use the F-16 avionics under the hood?

Thanks

You can, but right now it is only seeding through torrents.  I can't figure out how to copy the link over here.  When it shows up on servers I'll post some links here.

The non-F-16 planes still use F-16 avionics.  I don't think there are any plans to change that...at least in the foreseeable future.  On the one hand that's a bummer.  Having played some of the DCS modules I realize how lame it is to fly a MiG-29 with F-16 avionics, for example.  On the other hand, once you understand how the F-16 works you can try any other plane without a huge learning curve, or having to re-map your HOTAS to the new plane.

For me, personally, it's all "close enough."  The purists stick with the F-16 only.
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Yskonyn

#17
October 31, 2015, 09:01:05 AM
Doing Carrier Ops in an F/A-18 is just as fun in BMS as it will be in DCS's module (or as it was in Jane's F/A-18 sim). :)
I wouldn't know the difference between how an F-16 or an F/A-18 handles anyway, cause I never flew them in real life. As long as the flight model gives me a believable version of a Jet fighter FM I am happy.
If then, the F/A-18 is based on the Viper's avionics, but still shows a F/A-18 cockpit.... so what? The functionality is roughly the same anyway. You fire a gun, you drop bombs, you shoot missiles. HUD systems are generally pretty much the same from Western fighter to fighter. So what's hampering the experience? Only the fact that you know the aircraft is based on the F-16 avionics eventhough it shows you the correct cockpit? Does it matter?
As detailed as these are in Falcon, they are still a simplification from the real jet and that doesn't bother people either.

Just my two cents. And I fly aircraft for real (and with former Viper pilots, who are all pretty amazed at what BMS offers).

"Pilots do not get paid for what they do daily, but they get paid for what they are capable of doing.
However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore."

Yskonyn

#18
October 31, 2015, 09:19:30 AM
"Pilots do not get paid for what they do daily, but they get paid for what they are capable of doing.
However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore."

Toonces

#19
October 31, 2015, 09:35:21 AM
That's always been my attitude Yassy, but I understand the counter-argument as well.  It's about choice and I'm glad BMS offers that.  I know that a lot of their team want BMS to solely focus on the F-16 ONLY, and in fact, many vocal community members feel the same way.  I'm glad other opinions prevail.

Having said all that, although none of the FMs for the other jets are done to the level of the F-16 (I think) they are still very different.  Try flying an F-4 in campaign, for example, and you'll find even with the F-16 avionics you'll have a much greater challenge, from the number of MFDs available, the weapons you can carry, the visibility out of the cockpit, and the much more limited thrust to weight, etc.  It's a handful.
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Toonces

#20
October 31, 2015, 09:37:30 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on October 31, 2015, 08:18:48 AM
I know this will sound odd, but I usually do direct downloads and haven't messed with torrent files so far.....is their a specific recommended application I should use?

I use uTorrent.  When you install it, just be careful to read the EULAs and don't inadvertently install spamware...it will offer you one or two that you have to uncheck (I really hate that).  Other than that, though, it works just fine.  I downloaded, installed, and am now downloading the BMS torrent and the whole process from start to finish (from downloading uTorrent to downloading BMS) was less than a minute.
"If you had a chance, right now, to go back in time and stop Hitler, wouldn't you do it?  I mean, I personally wouldn't stop him because I think he's awesome." - Eric Cartman

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Toonces

#21
October 31, 2015, 09:43:21 AM
Wow, downloaded the torrent in less than 5 minutes.  Good stuff!

Even though my Fighterstick is dead (new one due on Monday) I might take a hop in the F-16D in the backseat and let the AI fly the jet so I can see what's going on at least.  All right, enough posts from Toonces for a while.
"If you had a chance, right now, to go back in time and stop Hitler, wouldn't you do it?  I mean, I personally wouldn't stop him because I think he's awesome." - Eric Cartman

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Yskonyn

#22
October 31, 2015, 10:02:43 AM
Check six, Toonces and Godspeed!
I am trying to get my TM WH configured decently. I think my best bet is going off Morphine's profile and edit that to suit my own needs. Or at least use it to figure out how I should edit my own profile.
This always has been the most annoying part of BMS. :P

I also use uTorrent. Heed Toonces' warning, though, or else you will be stuck with very annoying malware crap. uTorrent itself is clean, however and safe to use.
"Pilots do not get paid for what they do daily, but they get paid for what they are capable of doing.
However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore."

Jarhead0331

#23
October 31, 2015, 10:29:22 AM
Thanks for the link yskonym. I'm still struggling though. Somehow I managed to get a configuration that seems ok, but I'm edge. Just not sure what is going on there.

Anyway, I'm not a big fan of torrents either. I also used utorrent for this and like Toonces, had the file in less than 5 minutes. Very fast, very simple.
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Grim.Reaper

#24
October 31, 2015, 10:47:08 AM
Thanks guys, I ended up using something called Deluge...mine downloaded within about 5 minutes too.....I am also experiencing some weirdness with controller setup that I did not have happen in prior version (assigning weapons and other controls).

Yskonyn

#25
October 31, 2015, 02:12:35 PM
The best way is to avoid assigning functions in the game's UI, but rather EDIT the controller file directly. It has always been like this due to the legacy of Falcon 4.0 itself.
"Pilots do not get paid for what they do daily, but they get paid for what they are capable of doing.
However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore."

Jarhead0331

#26
October 31, 2015, 02:53:21 PM
As far as axis go, I think I finally have something I'm comfortable with.
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JudgeDredd

#27
October 31, 2015, 04:33:49 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on October 30, 2015, 10:12:32 PM
Yep, falcon 4...can pick up at gog if you don't own yet.

https://www.gog.com/game/falcon_collection
Thank you to THIS post, I will now be able to play Falcon 4 Modern.

I have commented, time and time again, how I was gutted I didn't have my original Falcon 4 but only had Allied Force...and never, ever did this information become available to me.

Thanks to GR's post, I have now bought and installed Falcon 4 and will hopefully be enjoying BMS.  O0

And here was me thinking it was only bad News the Grim Reaper brought to you - talk about a bad rap!  :idiot2:
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Skoop

#28
October 31, 2015, 06:07:27 PM
They had me at autogen trees....I'm a stickler on terrain, I can't do old sims unless they have spiffy terrain.  I flew the Israeli campaign last year as a compromise, bms has a nice looking Sinai. 

I guess now this deserves another foray into bms....now for the control woes...man I shouldn't have uninstalled. 

Carrier ops too !

Jarhead0331

#29
October 31, 2015, 06:12:29 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on October 31, 2015, 04:33:49 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on October 30, 2015, 10:12:32 PM
Yep, falcon 4...can pick up at gog if you don't own yet.

https://www.gog.com/game/falcon_collection
Thank you to THIS post, I will now be able to play Falcon 4 Modern.

I have commented, time and time again, how I was gutted I didn't have my original Falcon 4 but only had Allied Force...and never, ever did this information become available to me.

Thanks to GR's post, I have now bought and installed Falcon 4 and will hopefully be enjoying BMS.  O0

And here was me thinking it was only bad News the Grim Reaper brought to you - talk about a bad rap!  :idiot2:

I guess you missed this then?

http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=15181.0
Grogheads Uber Alles
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"No beast is more alpha than JH." Gusington, 10/23/18

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