Explosions and Shootout in Paris

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undercovergeek

#120
November 18, 2015, 06:12:41 AM
they also suspect the 'mastermind' to have been there too, despite earlier intel saying he was in syria

Toonces

#121
November 18, 2015, 07:27:58 AM
Backfire is a beautiful airplane.  The Russians really know how to build good-lookin' jets!   :smitten:
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Staggerwing

#122
November 18, 2015, 07:45:59 AM
Quote from: Toonces on November 18, 2015, 07:27:58 AM
Backfire is a beautiful airplane.  The Russians really know how to build good-lookin' jets!   :smitten:

It's ok, but nothing beats the sheer elegance of a B-1:












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BanzaiCat

#123
November 18, 2015, 07:55:16 AM
One of those articles stated the Russians aren't necessarily hitting ISIL/ISIS targets, though. I'm willing to bet this bomber force represents pretty much all of their offensive capability, strategic bomber-wise anyway. I wonder how many didn't make the raid due to maintenance issues.

bayonetbrant

#124
November 18, 2015, 07:56:38 AM
They weren't originally. They were claiming to hit ISIL targets  while actually hitting anti-Assad rebels. That changed after their airliner was blown up.
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Centurion40

#125
November 18, 2015, 08:18:11 AM
Quote from: Airborne Rifles on November 18, 2015, 05:54:31 AM
Ongoing raid in Paris: http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/18/world/paris-attacks/index.html

Two suspects dead, one of whom died when she activated a suicide belt. The French say this group was just about to launch another operation.

I really hope that a component of recent anti-terrorist raids includes other Muslims contacting authorities to identify suspected terrorists.
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panzerde

#126
November 18, 2015, 08:22:57 AM
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OJsDad

#127
November 18, 2015, 08:34:20 AM
Quote from: Centurion40 on November 18, 2015, 08:18:11 AM
Quote from: Airborne Rifles on November 18, 2015, 05:54:31 AM
Ongoing raid in Paris: http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/18/world/paris-attacks/index.html

Two suspects dead, one of whom died when she activated a suicide belt. The French say this group was just about to launch another operation.

I really hope that a component of recent anti-terrorist raids includes other Muslims contacting authorities to identify suspected terrorists.

Totally agree.  It was proven in Iraq that support from Muslims saying enough and working with US and Iraq government to put an end to the terrorists.   
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bayonetbrant

#128
November 18, 2015, 09:05:51 AM
we could just send this guy

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BanzaiCat

#129
November 18, 2015, 09:13:38 AM
If "theirs" a war on grammar, this guy should be in the frontline (and will be the first casualty).

Sir Slash

#130
November 18, 2015, 04:18:21 PM
You guys are forgetting Father Obama told us, the Russians are acting out of weakness. Lets hope they launch some more mass air-weakenings on ISIS's asses soon.
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panzerde

#131
November 18, 2015, 06:23:37 PM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on November 18, 2015, 07:55:16 AM
One of those articles stated the Russians aren't necessarily hitting ISIL/ISIS targets, though. I'm willing to bet this bomber force represents pretty much all of their offensive capability, strategic bomber-wise anyway. I wonder how many didn't make the raid due to maintenance issues.

Probably true. However, when doing some background reading I was reminded that our initial heavy bomber attack for Desert Storm was a mere seven bombers. Also that on any given day, due to maintenance issues and the like our entire bomber force is about 57 B-52s, B-1s, and B-2s.

As someone that grew up outside of Wright-Patterson AFB in the 1960s and 70s when the 17th Bomb Wing was stationed there, watching B-52s fly over every six minutes, a bomber force of only 57 flyable aircraft just seems unthinkable to me.  :o

The overall impression I had was that while the Russian bomber force isn't what ours is, it's still the second largest in the world and it's coming back from a low point in the 1990s, with continuing improvements.

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JasonPratt

#132
November 19, 2015, 08:54:50 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on November 18, 2015, 07:56:38 AM
They weren't originally. They were claiming to hit ISIL targets  while actually hitting anti-Assad rebels. That changed after their airliner was blown up.

How sure are we about that? I've been out of the loop a bit the past few days, but I remember cynically wondering whether they were really going to start doing what they had said they were doing now.
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#133
November 19, 2015, 09:08:21 AM
Quote from: Toonces on November 18, 2015, 07:27:58 AM
Backfire is a beautiful airplane.  The Russians really know how to copy good-lookin' jets!   :smitten:
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Bison

#134
November 19, 2015, 09:58:20 PM
"Do you believe that President Obama underestimated ISIS when he called it the JV team?" Zakaria asked. "I don't think it's useful to go back and re-plow old ground," Clinton said.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427355/hilllary-clinton-defends-obamas-isis-jv-label

Huma must have forgotten to tell her ward about the Paris attacks.
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