"This is the Chinese navy ... You go!"

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Gusington

#195
January 31, 2016, 12:16:42 PM
Complimentary? No way. Charge them!
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Boggit

#196
January 31, 2016, 09:21:16 PM
The US needs to face off China now, while it still can. In 10 years it will be a very tough prospect, with economic and military dominance growing as it is.

Reading about mass Chinese immigration loyal to China's Communist party made me think. What if localised Chinese populations start to outnumber the native populations in Africa (or elsewhere)? If they have voting power in "democracies" they may get direct representation, or at least strong pressure on national governments to jump whatever way Beijing wants. This could seriously undermine the interest of other countries, as well as undermine the US's lead as global superpower.
The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own. Aldous Huxley

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mirth

#197
January 31, 2016, 09:29:35 PM
The face-off is coming. I agree that sooner is better than later. I'm not sure that 10 years is the window, but I also don't see us pursuing a 600 ship fleet to bury the ChiComms.
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OJsDad

#198
January 31, 2016, 09:35:09 PM
The Chinese economy is in a lot worse shape than most people realize.  Commodity prices is a good place to start looking.  If their economy was growing as they claim, commodity prices wouldn't be in the crapper.

I heard something interesting the other day.  They've put a hard floor on the price of oil.  I think its $40 right now.  They're using the extra money to try and clean up their environmental mess.  That means that Chinese and Chinese companies are paying more for oil than we are right now.  Those little things start to add up that may slow their economy down more.
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mirth

#199
February 01, 2016, 12:34:22 PM
http://breakingdefense.com/2016/01/mccain-praises-new-navy-challenge-to-china-in-paracel-islands/


Quote"The US isn't really challenging any Chinese maritime claims, and in fact is helping to support them by conducting an innocent passage, which is allowed within 12 miles of someone else's territory," said Bryan Clark, a former top aide to the Chief of Naval Operations. "If the U.S. wanted to challenge China's and other's claims, the ship would conduct 'military operations' such as running radars or conducting helo ops. It did not do this."
"45 minutes of pooping Tribbles being juggled by a drunken Horta would be better than Season 1 of TNG." - SirAndrewD

"you don't look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire" - Bawb

"Can't 'un' until you 'pre', son." - Gus

Boggit

#200
February 05, 2016, 07:01:58 PM
Mirth is right. If you follow a policy of appeasement with totalitarian regimes you will either fight at a disadvantage, or be overrun.

This really hit home with me when I watched BBC's This World: The war room. Lady Falkner scared me the most. I just hope she was playing a character role (and not presenting her real views): An appeaser to despots, and unwilling to launch nukes when she knew civilian centres were subject to nuclear launches. She came across as a moral coward who should not be let anywhere near a war room. I expect had the situation been real, and she remained in the character played she would also be happy to be part of a Quisling government too. Just scary.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06zw32h
The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own. Aldous Huxley

Foul Temptress! (Mirth replying to Gus) ;)

On a good day, our legislature has the prestige of a drunk urinating on a wall at 4am and getting most of it on his shoe. On a good day  ::) Steelgrave

It's kind of silly to investigate whether or not a Clinton is lying. That's sort of like investigating why the sky is blue. Banzai_Cat

Gusington

#201
February 05, 2016, 08:11:33 PM
Quisling...haven't heard that name in a while.
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Staggerwing

#202
February 05, 2016, 08:19:12 PM
Dins't we recently spot him at a dinner party with that other guy, Adolf Schickle-something-or-other? IIRC, they talked a lot of politics...
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LongBlade

#203
February 16, 2016, 05:59:42 PM
China continues to get frisky.

The report goes on to say that these are HQ-9's, similar to Russia's S-300.

QuoteThe Chinese military has deployed an advanced surface-to-air missile system to one of its contested islands in the South China Sea according to civilian satellite imagery exclusively obtained by Fox News, more evidence that China is increasingly "militarizing" its islands in the South China Sea and ramping up tensions in the region.

The imagery from ImageSat International (ISI) shows two batteries of eight surface-to-air missile launchers as well as a radar system on Woody Island, part of the Paracel Island chain in the South China Sea.

It is the same island chain where a U.S. Navy destroyer sailed close to another contested island a few weeks ago. China at the time vowed "consequences" for the action.

source: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/02/16/exclusive-china-sends-surface-to-air-missiles-to-contested-island-in-provocative-move.html?intcmp=hpbt1
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mirth

#204
February 16, 2016, 06:18:28 PM
An excellent test target for a rail gun.
"45 minutes of pooping Tribbles being juggled by a drunken Horta would be better than Season 1 of TNG." - SirAndrewD

"you don't look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire" - Bawb

"Can't 'un' until you 'pre', son." - Gus

mirth

#205
February 27, 2016, 06:13:57 PM
Chinese Detection/Defense Capabilities in the South China Sea

https://csis.cartodb.com/viz/4c461308-d73e-11e5-9a49-0e3ff518bd15/embed_map
"45 minutes of pooping Tribbles being juggled by a drunken Horta would be better than Season 1 of TNG." - SirAndrewD

"you don't look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire" - Bawb

"Can't 'un' until you 'pre', son." - Gus

Boggit

#208
March 25, 2016, 04:04:29 PM
Is there any longstanding historic justification for China claiming 80% of the South China Sea, or is it just the school bully who hasn't learnt to share?
The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own. Aldous Huxley

Foul Temptress! (Mirth replying to Gus) ;)

On a good day, our legislature has the prestige of a drunk urinating on a wall at 4am and getting most of it on his shoe. On a good day  ::) Steelgrave

It's kind of silly to investigate whether or not a Clinton is lying. That's sort of like investigating why the sky is blue. Banzai_Cat

mirth

#209
March 25, 2016, 04:07:19 PM
It's an agressively expansionist communist dictatorship that thinks they can get away with it and so far has.
"45 minutes of pooping Tribbles being juggled by a drunken Horta would be better than Season 1 of TNG." - SirAndrewD

"you don't look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire" - Bawb

"Can't 'un' until you 'pre', son." - Gus
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