Star Trek series coming in 2017

[bbmike]

No, it's these:

http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/star-trek-blueprints.php

My grandfather gave me this back in 1975. My copies are pretty worn.

Your grandfather was awesome!

[BanzaiCat]

Oh, the stories I could tell. He was kind of a jerk 24/7 actually, but he had a few moments here and there.

[JasonPratt]

To the previous good points for III, allow me to add: another rousing score by James Horner!

ST:I, directed by no less than Robert Wise, was trying to out-2001 Kubrick's 2001. With a plotline that had become cliche in the series itself, which didn't help. But I'll watch ST:I any day over 2001, so I feel like they succeeded.

Not that I'd go out of my way to watch either of those movies. But ST:I does feature the Jerry Goldsmith score that would come back many years later to be the primary theme for TNG.

[bbmike]

To the previous good points for III, allow me to add: another rousing score by James Horner!

ST:I, directed by no less than Robert Wise, was trying to out-2001 Kubrick's 2001. With a plotline that had become cliche in the series itself, which didn't help. But I'll watch ST:I any day over 2001, so I feel like they succeeded.

Not that I'd go out of my way to watch either of those movies. But ST:I does feature the Jerry Goldsmith score that would come back many years later to be the primary theme for TNG.

Plus it introduced THE best looking version of the USS Enterprise. Ever.

[WallysWorld]

To the previous good points for III, allow me to add: another rousing score by James Horner!
ST:I, directed by no less than Robert Wise, was trying to out-2001 Kubrick's 2001. With a plotline that had become cliche in the series itself, which didn't help. But I'll watch ST:I any day over 2001, so I feel like they succeeded.
Not that I'd go out of my way to watch either of those movies. But ST:I does feature the Jerry Goldsmith score that would come back many years later to be the primary theme for TNG.

Plus it introduced THE best looking version of the USS Enterprise. Ever.

100% agree that the original cast movies' Enterprise was definitely the best. I have Art Asylum's Enterprise from both Star Trek II and Star Trek III with the latter showing battle damage. On top of that, I have Excelsior, Reliant and Kronos One hand built models hanging over my desk.

I really hope that this new series will take place during the original cast movie era.

My rankings for the first ten movies:

1. Wrath of Khan
2. The Voyage Home
3. The Undiscovered Country
4. First Contact
5. The Motion Picture
6. The Search for Spock
7. Generations
8. The Final Frontier
9. Insurrection
10. Nemesis

[mirth]

How can you guys put any of them below Final Frontier? That movie was a total embarrassment. I actually walked out of theater when I first saw it. I never hated Shatner more than for that piece of garbage.

[WallysWorld]

Sorry, Nemesis and Insurrection both bored me big time.

The battle in Nemesis went on and on and on...and I still don't know why Shinzon wanted to destroy the Federation or why the Romulan Empire decided that an 18 year old human clone would be the best person to run the Empire.

Insurrection was just unrealistic when the Enterprise's crew basically mutinied saying that the lives of 150 or so people matter more than saving the lives of billions of people if the rejuvenation effects would have been successfully harnessed. Picard rebelled against Admiral Dougherty before he knew exactly why and what the Son'a were up to.

The Final Frontier's real problem is poor implementation of the movie and not so much poor story.

But I must admit that I'm a big original crew fan so that probably taints my list.

[OJsDad]

I agree with BC about the retconning of Zephram Cochrane in First Contact. It bothered me too. It was a huge departure from established canon.

I don't know.  I think it made a lot of sense.  How many people do we portray one way, but if we could go back and interact with them, find that they were nothing like that.  Cochranes portrayal in First Contact is the perfect example of Almost the Wrong Person, at Almost the Wrong Time, in Almost the Wrong Place.  But when the moment came that the person is known for was, somehow, able to make it work. 

[bbmike]

How can you guys put any of them below Final Frontier? That movie was a total embarrassment. I actually walked out of theater when I first saw it. I never hated Shatner more than for that piece of garbage.

It had one thing Insuckrection and Nemesis didn't. The original crew.

[mirth]

How can you guys put any of them below Final Frontier? That movie was a total embarrassment. I actually walked out of theater when I first saw it. I never hated Shatner more than for that piece of garbage.

It had one thing Insuckrection and Nemesis didn't. The original crew.

Kirk, Spock, and McCoy singing "Row, Row, Row Your Boat" and making fart jokes around a campfire. Uhura's fan dance. Kirk back-talking God. All high points for the franchise  :D

[bbmike]

You also forgot Spock having a brother no one never knew about. 

[mirth]

And Spock's father having a previous marriage to a Vulcan princess.

[bbmike]

I tried to forget that.  :(

[mirth]

My favorite thing in the entire movie was the periscope gunnery system on the Bird of Prey. That and the punk rock Klingon commander.



I really loved it when he had to apologize to Kirk.

[Martok]

The battle in Nemesis went on and on and on...and I still don't know why Shinzon wanted to destroy the Federation or why the Romulan Empire decided that an 18 year old human clone would be the best person to run the Empire.

Nemesis sucked because it tried to be the TNG version of Wrath of Kahn...the problem being that the screenplay was written by a bad fanfic writer (generally a redundant term, I know ::) ).  The dialogue was complete trash, and the plot holes were so hilariously big -- and numerous -- that you could fly an armada of Borg cubes through them.