Sovereignty gets a mayor update and reaches 2.0!

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Ubercat

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June 19, 2016, 03:09:13 PM
OK, how the heck are you supposed to upgrade your provinces economic levels? There's supposed to be an upgrade button but I haven't seen a trace of it. I remember being able to do so some time ago when I last tried the game but that was before the recent upgrade.

I can add a town hall building, just can't bump the level # of the province itself.
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mikeck

#16
June 19, 2016, 03:39:29 PM
Quote from: Ubercat on June 19, 2016, 03:09:13 PM
OK, how the heck are you supposed to upgrade your provinces economic levels? There's supposed to be an upgrade button but I haven't seen a trace of it. I remember being able to do so some time ago when I last tried the game but that was before the recent upgrade.

I can add a town hall building, just can't bump the level # of the province itself.

You should make sure you go through all of the patch notes if you get a chance because there are several changes this is one of them . You no longer simply "upgrade" a province. You build individual buildings in them which create a tree that allow for other buildings. Some improve economically some improvement literally. The standard thing
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Boggit

#17
June 19, 2016, 03:51:03 PM
And a much better way to handle it now, IMO. O0
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Ubercat

#18
June 19, 2016, 05:47:42 PM
My capital starts at level 4. The tooltip says that you can't construct more buildings than the economic level. I construct a townhall and that maxes out the buildings at 4. Now I can't do any more building.

Are you guys saying that 4 is the permanent limit? Other provinces have higher levels IIRC, so that doesn't make much sense. I'll take another look to see if any of the buildings themselves increase the economic level.

Thanks!
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Boggit

#19
June 19, 2016, 06:19:05 PM
Quote from: Ubercat on June 19, 2016, 05:47:42 PM
My capital starts at level 4. The tooltip says that you can't construct more buildings than the economic level. I construct a townhall and that maxes out the buildings at 4. Now I can't do any more building.

Are you guys saying that 4 is the permanent limit? Other provinces have higher levels IIRC, so that doesn't make much sense. I'll take another look to see if any of the buildings themselves increase the economic level.

Thanks!
That sounds a bit odd. Not all the buildings are economic ones, so why would the cap be economic for all the buildings? Or is it just economic buildings?
The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own. Aldous Huxley

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On a good day, our legislature has the prestige of a drunk urinating on a wall at 4am and getting most of it on his shoe. On a good day  ::) Steelgrave

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mikeck

#20
June 19, 2016, 07:47:41 PM
I'm not sure. But as stated above, not all the buildings are economic so that doesn't sound right.
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Ubercat

#21
June 19, 2016, 09:18:39 PM
Quote from: Ubercat on June 19, 2016, 05:47:42 PM
... I'll take another look to see if any of the buildings themselves increase the economic level.

Thanks!

Nope, no such luck. If anyone finds out if there's some way to increase a provinces Economic level I'd be curious to find out, but I'm not going to sweat it anymore.

We're so lucky and so spoiled for PC gaming choices these days. If this were 20 years ago I'd be waiting with bated breath, and offering up my firstborn for an answer to this question. Nowadays, there are so many games available that we just move on. This may not be the best thread to make this point, and no disrespect is intended towards the Dev's, but it's funny how easy it is to discard a game if it doesn't seem perfect at the moment.  :crazy2:
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mikeck

#22
June 19, 2016, 10:05:46 PM
Well I saw the Dev say that you CANNOT change a provinces economic level at all. If it's a 3, it stays a 3 forever. But you CAN build things that increase the gold and minerals and stuff you get out of that "3 level province"
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Ubercat

#23
June 19, 2016, 10:20:47 PM
That kind of makes sense.

I assume that the time frame of a game lasts only a limited number of years; too few for major population increases that would lead to a level increase. Nevertheless, it's kind of disappointing as it would be fun to turn a small realm into a powerhouse.
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joram

#24
June 20, 2016, 06:54:54 AM
I'm not sure if I'm wild about not being able to upgrade a province factor at all.  I've also noticed province numbers going down without any apparent way of bringing them back to their original cap.   If you can't at least repair a war torn province at least, that's a big dis-satisfier for me.

-budd-

#25
June 20, 2016, 08:31:14 AM
haven't played in a bit. the battles are fun, but as a small/medium realm is there enough to do yet? hitting end turn all the time waiting on economic stuff and  trying to find a suitable battle to get into was tedious after awhile.
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mikeck

#26
June 22, 2016, 12:36:40 PM
Quote from: Ubercat on June 19, 2016, 03:09:13 PM
OK, how the heck are you supposed to upgrade your provinces economic levels? There's supposed to be an upgrade button but I haven't seen a trace of it. I remember being able to do so some time ago when I last tried the game but that was before the recent upgrade.

I can add a town hall building, just can't bump the level # of the province itself.

Found this quote on the forums regarding how to upgrade the economic level of a province. I had said that you cannot but apparently I was wrong:

"There is no need to repair it. You receive it intact. All buildings you can't build yourself are destroyed though.
It is only possible to raise the economy of a province through certain buildings e.g. the tier 4 Aqueduct."
"A government large enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have."--Thomas Jefferson
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