And the current Islamic terrorist attack is...

[Staggerwing]

:'(

At least 60 dead now and near 100 injured (per Euronews).

How awful... the French are taking a real beating lately. They have my deepest sympathies.  :(

[panzerde]

I'm going to sit here and swear for awhile, I think.
>:(

[OJsDad]

Hearing death toll over 70 now. 

Also reports that the drive got out with a gun and started shooting into crowd. 

[Gusington]

^That's what I just saw on CNN. There's new footage of several people chasing after the truck before it gets going, apparently trying to stop it. Disgusting, cowardly attack.

[OJsDad]

Sounds like four French police fired into the truck while it was still going down the street and stopped it.  Seeing pictures on TV of the truck and looks like 20+ bullets hit the windshield. 

[JasonPratt]

I'm hearing reports on news outlets saying bullets started being shot out of the van, too, as it got started. Explosives inside as well, although they weren't used. Could have been much worse.

[Steelgrave]

So tired of this happening over and over. Seriously, if we could gather all these fanatics in one place, I'd push the button myself to drop a nuke on their heads.

[mirth]

We're at war. Politcally, someone needs to nut up and acknowledge that.

[Sir Slash]

Both Trump and Hillary were on O'Reilly's show tonight and both said we were at war and both used the term, "Islamic Fanatics" though neither was too generous in their details as to how they plan to wage such a war. Even Geraldo was all fired-up and ready fight somebody. If we get hit again here in the US during the election season, it may really be a new day in America.

[undercovergeek]

84 dead this morning and 120 injured

one egyptian guy filmed it all including the drivers death but i think the pilice took his phone - i personally would have beat him with it, he said on radio this morning that they kept telling him to run but he kept filming, to think one police guy could have been killed getting this guy to move makes me more as mad as the attack

i was going to ask why the US isnt more of a target for these things but realise you guys just had the nightclub in florida

[MikeGER]

saw this gruesome political cartoon on Twitter but it vanished very fast (guess censored) ...

[Dammit Carl!]

i was going to ask why the US isnt more of a target for these things but realise you guys just had the nightclub in florida

My Dad, a retired truck driver, always said that after 9/11 and the use of planes, trucks (large, cargo carrying types) would probably be used for the next big event as they are exceedingly common any and everywhere you go.

France is going to go buck-ass-wild on some people once they get a good target to go for and I can't blame them in the least.

[bayonetbrant]

I saw on the news today that Trump would go to Congress and ask for a declaration of war. (Not sure if Hillz said she would, but I don't think so)

And Nicole Wallace got it right: "Declaring war feels right on a gut level"

But the follow-up that's missing is key:  against who?

A state of war only exists between nation-states and only ends when one side surrenders.
Who is the nation-state with whom our state of will exist?  ISIS/ISIL/Daesh?  Great, you've just legitimized them on the world stage by elevating them from "terror group" to "nation-state".
Who is going to sign the surrender document ending the state of war?  Do you really, seriously think there's *anyone* in ISIS/ISIL/Daesh that's going to sign one?

The fact that we might choose to fight it as a war, using an authorization of military force on our end for Congress to give the President permission to deploy the troops for an extended period that covers the necessary legal bases under US law, will bring the requisite amount of violence desired to kill the sonofabitches that need killing. 

But don't legitimize an illegitimate regime by treating them as a diplomatic equal.

[Airborne Rifles]

I saw on the news today that Trump would go to Congress and ask for a declaration of war. (Not sure if Hillz said she would, but I don't think so)

And Nicole Wallace got it right: "Declaring war feels right on a gut level"

But the follow-up that's missing is key:  against who?

A state of war only exists between nation-states and only ends when one side surrenders.
Who is the nation-state with whom our state of will exist?  ISIS/ISIL/Daesh?  Great, you've just legitimized them on the world stage by elevating them from "terror group" to "nation-state".
Who is going to sign the surrender document ending the state of war?  Do you really, seriously think there's *anyone* in ISIS/ISIL/Daesh that's going to sign one?

The fact that we might choose to fight it as a war, using an authorization of military force on our end for Congress to give the President permission to deploy the troops for an extended period that covers the necessary legal bases under US law, will bring the requisite amount of violence desired to kill the sonofabitches that need killing. 

But don't legitimize an illegitimate regime by treating them as a diplomatic equal.

+1

[Tpek]

saw this gruesome political cartoon on Twitter but it vanished very fast (guess censored) ...

Seems like a caricature the Israeli right-wingers would make.