And the current Islamic terrorist attack is...

[MikeGER]

But the follow-up that's missing is key:  against who?

the answer to that is so highly not political correct that even Trump cant pull that one

Muslim immigration kills!

maybe not always in the first then from a later generation born into the society, or when younglings (see Boston) came with the immigrants.

the terrorist was born in France by Tunesian parents and hold both citizenship.

passive smoking gets fought and is forbitten because there is a very slim statistical chance that some bystander may catch some aggressive molecule drifting in the cloud of all the other bazillion molecule in the smoke and the bystander may after decades develop cancer-diseases and dies.  smoking in public gets outlawed more and more. 

while being passive exposed to traditional Islam in a society is allowed, even so here also only a small part of the members are actual in a detectable aggressive stand, but may self-radicalize and loose it one day with a statistical probability.

Well, there is no problem with a guy just being a Muslim and practicing his belief mostly as private affair in the same totally  laid-back and mostly unnoticeable way like other religion followers do their things in a relaxed westernized way.
but when traditional gear wearing including headscarfs (the 'swastika brassard' of tradional Islam), diet enforcing on other people, demands on bystanders, and such things show up. its time to interact. 
   

[bayonetbrant]

its time to interact.   

You can act all you want

But the act you take matters

A declaration of war exists between nation-states

What nation-state do you want to go to war with, and why?

[MikeGER]

Seems like a caricature the Israeli right-wingers would make.

actually its a copy cat of a cartoon probably drawn after Palestinian attacks with a car
(I found the same cartoon with just a car and the same drivers picture)

[MikeGER]

its time to interact.   

You can act all you want

But the act you take matters

A declaration of war exists between nation-states

What nation-state do you want to go to war with, and why?

i meant its time to interact on the "home front" 

You are right, there will be no 'nation state' to be found who is responsible and to declare a traditional war on like in the 19th century
...but there are a lot of citizens from all kind of 'nation-states' and 'kingdoms' that are founding and facilitating the cause.

so you might have to take out a yacht with its "businessmen" owner in a harbor of some gulfstate, or let a sniper team  take out some person on a golf course,  or when stepping out of a/his falcon clinic... who finance terror ideology, IS, and other groups, as a princely hobby.

[OJsDad]

I wonder with a declaration of war, what effect that would have here in the US with surveillance, detentions, raiding without warrants, etc.

[bayonetbrant]

I wonder with a declaration of war, what effect that would have here in the US with surveillance, detentions, raiding without warrants, etc.

we're already doing it now!  ::)

[Marty Ward]

Muslim immigration kills!

From 2001 through 2013 the US has accepted about 1.5 million muslim immigrants.

About how many attacks, of any type including assaults, fist fights or food fights, have occurred here by them? My guess is no more than most other ethnic or religious groups.

[Sir Slash]

You'd be wrong Marty. Since 9-11, dozens of planned attacks have been prevented and all by Muslim fanatics. It's not Hindu or Buddist terrorists that are plotting to kill us with our own vehicles.

[OJsDad]

I wonder with a declaration of war, what effect that would have here in the US with surveillance, detentions, raiding without warrants, etc.

we're already doing it now!  ::)

No where near what we've done in the past during official states of war.  We could see FBI agents opening going into mosques and observing what's going on and detaining any that they felt were threats, jailing, with no do process, IT execs for refusing to hand over encryption codes or other demanded knowledge.  We could see the mass roundup of segments of the population that are deemed terrorists.  By whose definition.  Would someone speaking out against BLM be considered a terrorist by some Presidents.

It can get a lot worse. 

[Marty Ward]

You'd be wrong Marty. Since 9-11, dozens of planned attacks have been prevented and all by Muslim fanatics. It's not Hindu or Buddist terrorists that are plotting to kill us with our own vehicles.

So dozens out of 1.5 million people? If muslims immigrants wanted to kill us you would think there would be more attempts.

[Marty Ward]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there aren't some crazy MF radical Islamists who want to kill us and we should do all we can (short of becoming a police state) to find them but to make such a general statement like muslim immigration kills! is just plain wrong. It doesn't any more sense than saying guns kill people.

[MikeGER]

So dozens out of 1.5 million people? If Muslims immigrants wanted to kill us you would think there would be more attempts.

so how many non-smoking people have been killed by the milions and millions carton of cigarettes smoked from 2011 to 2013 ?

so how many people have been killed by packed-food items that all had to get called back to the producers warehouse and then been destroyed in precaution because of the one single package that had been reported by a consumer who had found a small sharp plastic particle in it?

Why taking avoidable risks in one case (immigration) and not in all the others (consumer health, safety or products, you name it) ?

How many foul (and spreading foulness to more fruits) apples in the Muslin box is ok to still be alowed to sale the box?
   

[Marty Ward]

So dozens out of 1.5 million people? If Muslims immigrants wanted to kill us you would think there would be more attempts.

so how many non-smoking people have been killed by the milions and millions carton of cigarettes smoked from 2011 to 2013 ?

so how many people have been killed by packed-food items that all had to get called back to the producers warehouse and then been destroyed in precaution because of the one single package that had been reported by a consumer who had found a small sharp plastic particle in it?

Why taking avoidable risks in one case (immigration) and not in all the others (consumer health, safety or products, you name it) ?

How many foul (and spreading foulness to more fruits) apples in the Muslin box is ok to still be alowed to sale the box?
   

You seem to think there should be some guarantee.

Using your food example there have  been millions of recalls for them and there will be millions more in the future. How can that be if we can't have avoidable risks?

[mirth]

its time to interact.   

You can act all you want

But the act you take matters

A declaration of war exists between nation-states

What nation-state do you want to go to war with, and why?

I'm not looking for a declaration of war in the legal sense of state-on-state, but we need to wake up to the fact that we are at war with zealots who want to undermine and destroy the United States and Western Civilization. Having our own president pussy foot around the matter or steadfastly refuse to utter the words 'radical Islam' does not serve the nation well.

[Ubercat]

to make such a general statement like muslim immigration kills! is just plain wrong.

Have you been following recent events in Europe? Forex, there were approximately 1200 reported molestations and/or rapes of German women by Muslim immigrants last New Years Eve alone. In ONE night.

Rape isn't murder, but it's bad enough.