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Started by spelk, May 18, 2015, 11:22:27 AM

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Raied

No improvement in gameplay as I see from the various youtube videos, American Conquest and Cossacks 2 brought a lot of good improvements to the gameplay and animations/ graphics, none were utilized in 3.

Surtur

Hmm, I am gonna try and hold off for now, even though a remade Cossacks 1 does not at all sound like a bad thing to me
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JasonPratt

Me either; we often say we'd be glad for an update of Beloved Game X if they would just make the gfx better and maybe add some content. If Cossacks 1 looks better and doesn't run away with my processor anymore even on 'slow' speed, then I'm not against giving it a try.

Still, the original game was quirky. Really, really quirky. Not always in a good way. I basically gave up trying to finish the tutorial campaign in the original Coss1, and it isn't like I'm dirt-stupid or inflexible about game mechanics.
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Pete Dero

Review by James Allen (Out of Eight)


AchillesLastStand

Besides the multiplayer issues yesterday my time in game has been relatively bug free. I knew I was basically getting a graphical coat of paint on the original game and for 19.99 cant argue.
That being said I do have a few issues........
Multiplayer stability{while improved is still not 100%} I suspect most bought this for online play and if that isn't fixed cant see the game lasting long.
Some of the maps in the original were HUGE, these are just ok. Bigger maps please.
Not sure if they fixed the copy paste trick but came across this yesterday and was like {wth?}. Wont post the trick here but searching the steam forums will find it.

Love the different architecture for each nation and the amount of upgrades through the academy and blacksmith are almost staggering. The horses gait look a bit strange and cannons with no crews look odd but overall like the game.

JasonPratt

Quote from: Pete Dero on September 21, 2016, 11:02:55 AM
Review by James Allen (Out of Eight)



um. For someone who seems to be saying he played the original Coss1 with its expansions (and Coss2), James doesn't seem to remember that for formations to work properly without quite so much micro, they need to be properly built with a drummer and a... commander or sergeant or something, I forget what it's called.

Also, albeit by accident, his few cav troops in that group were in fact doing something useful by running ahead -- they were scouting for his advance. Of course they aren't supposed to be fighting, and would die quickly. (And James himself understood that one of their functions is to harass players by stealing their outlying econ quickly unless a few troops are stationed nearby -- which he didn't do. Granted, the mechanic is a little silly, but it makes some sense in the quirky combat system of the game.)

Also, as far as outproducing, he really had already outproduced his AI opponent, so I don't know why he was complaining about not being able to out-produce. But if he had wanted a third barracks (and yes I agree it's stupid in-world for exponential costs to that degree), he could have had one relatively soon with three fields full up with workers like that, if he had invested in a tech upgrade or two for each field.

On the other hand, man I was shocked at how much unlike the promotional screenies that gameplay looked. I didn't see the slightest difference in-game from Coss1.  ??? :(
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Rayfer

Nostalgia is a powerful emotion, just look at the early success of GOG.  There have been numerous re-releases of old games, like Baldurs Gate and Icewind Dale, using terms like 'enhanced edition'.  My experience with them has been less than satisfying. Under the hood (new graphics) they are the same old game. Not that that's a bad thing, it's just that I already played them so the experience isn't as satisfying as when the games were new.

bbmike

Not sure everyone feels the same way. Me, I still play Imperialism and would shell out $'s for an "enhanced edition"!  :smitten:
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Surtur

For me the nostalgia works. Age of Empires II HD, Stronghold HD, all were well worth it.

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undercovergeek

But for that to work shouldn't they have marketed this as 'Cossacks HD' instead of implying it's a new game

Rayfer

Quote from: bbmike on September 22, 2016, 09:25:37 AM
Not sure everyone feels the same way. Me, I still play Imperialism and would shell out $'s for an "enhanced edition"!  :smitten:

No doubt but that you are correct. GOG was a huge success and is still cranking out old games playable on new computers. I'm probably in the minority on this one.

Greybriar

Quote from: undercovergeek on September 22, 2016, 11:23:38 AM
But for that to work shouldn't they have marketed this as 'Cossacks HD' instead of implying it's a new game

I tend to agree with you. Using the title of a new sequel instead of an HD upgrade designation indicates deception and, therefore, dishonesty.
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AchillesLastStand

This was posted 9 hours ago by a developer,

"Dear friends, by the today's evening we will release a big patch
after which many of your problems will be gone forever!
We understand that caused a lot of dissatisfaction with the fact that the game has a very disturbing live bugs, but we'll do everything possible to ensure that very soon you have rejoiced product without any complaints.
Please wait for the evening news"


Surtur

Quote from: Greybriar on September 22, 2016, 12:07:35 PM
Quote from: undercovergeek on September 22, 2016, 11:23:38 AM
But for that to work shouldn't they have marketed this as 'Cossacks HD' instead of implying it's a new game

I tend to agree with you. Using the title of a new sequel instead of an HD upgrade designation indicates deception and, therefore, dishonesty.

This would have made more sense indeed.
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Gusington

So this is Cossacks HD and not a real Cossacks 3?


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