Any Racing fans out there? Project Cars, baby!

JudgeDredd · October 03, 2016, 11:44:01 AM

Quote from: rocketman on October 03, 2016, 10:50:21 AM
I've been thinking about getting Project Cars for some while and probably will next time it is on sale. What's it like to play with a controller? Decent enough?

No idea I'm afraid...and as I posted in another thread, I couldn't possibly recommend playing a racing simulation with a controller. I'm not being snobby about it...just in my experience (which is out of date to be fair) it's just not conducive to having a very good experience. I'd use a controller any day of the year for a football game or a boxing game, but not a racing game.

Now that I've said that, in the other thread I speak of (F1 2016), Grim Reaper is playing it with a controller and having a seemingly good time with it too.

bboyer66 · October 03, 2016, 12:10:27 PM

Do not, I repeat. Do not even think of Iracing , unless you can practice for at least a few hours before an actual race. Racing is actually 50% memorization of the track. If you do not practice, you will look like an ass, and are a big danger to anyone you are driving against.

You race a new track every week, so my typical preparation is:

Tuesday: Watch videos on you tube and practice new track. 1Hr

Wednesday: Same thing again. See how close my times are to the top racers and racers of my level. 1Hr

Thursday: Practice again for an Hr. If I am confident I might race that night. 1-2Hr

Friday - Sunday : Its race time

This is this guys first race ever in the Skip Barber 2000, and he does a great job coming in 9th in his first race.

Grim.Reaper · October 03, 2016, 04:42:10 PM

Quote from: JudgeDredd on October 03, 2016, 11:44:01 AM
Quote from: rocketman on October 03, 2016, 10:50:21 AM
I've been thinking about getting Project Cars for some while and probably will next time it is on sale. What's it like to play with a controller? Decent enough?
No idea I'm afraid...and as I posted in another thread, I couldn't possibly recommend playing a racing simulation with a controller. I'm not being snobby about it...just in my experience (which is out of date to be fair) it's just not conducive to having a very good experience. I'd use a controller any day of the year for a football game or a boxing game, but not a racing game.

Now that I've said that, in the other thread I speak of (F1 2016), Grim Reaper is playing it with a controller and having a seemingly good time with it too.

Although I am guessing that a wheel would be the best setup, I am finding it totally acceptable using a controller in F1. Not sure that would be the same in all racing games, but at least that one it feels just fine. If I stick to racing games for a while, I'll likely invest in a wheel some day.

Grim.Reaper · October 03, 2016, 05:38:54 PM

Question....I see they are working on Project Cars 2 now, does anybody have a timeline for it? This year? Next Year? Few Years? Just thinking about potentially buying at some point but if a new version is anywhere on the horizon, may hold off.

Richie61 · October 04, 2016, 07:27:42 AM

Quote from: bboyer66 on October 03, 2016, 12:10:27 PM
Do not, I repeat. Do not even think of Iracing , unless you can practice for at least a few hours before an actual race. Racing is actually 50% memorization of the track. If you do not practice, you will look like an ass, and are a big danger to anyone you are driving against.

I can't agree more about seat time behind the wheel O0

I built SCCA race cars with my Dad for 30 years and drove them for 15 years. I never have been able to find a racing sim that feels like driving a real car. I have IR tracker (works great to turn your head to
see the apex and checking mirrors) and bought a driving setup with frame to mount seat, pedals, shifter and wheel. I used tracks we raced on in real life and used cars that we built or I drove in real life.

I think I spent more time just testing trying different suspension setting, than we did with our real cars. I would make a shock setting change and then go out and run 10 laps. I used the Motech app to record data like in our real cars and then spend hours reviewing the data from the 10 lap runs. What was the hardest issue was that real data for shocks, springs, caster, chamber etc just didn't relate
to any of the sims. rFactor, GTR, GTR2, Iracing etc.... I found this VERY frustrating

In the end I slowly drifted away for racing sims as I just couldn't replicate the feeling of driving the real cars :-[

JudgeDredd · October 04, 2016, 07:53:28 AM

To be clear, this...

Quote from: JudgeDredd on October 03, 2016, 09:53:55 AM
iRacing isn't "that" taxing an experience
...

...seems to have spurred a couple of warning posts. I wasn't suggesting for a second that you can just jump into iRacing and in fact my posts immediately followed the statement above with "Practice is key".

Quote from: Grim.Reaper on October 03, 2016, 05:38:54 PM
Question....I see they are working on Project Cars 2 now, does anybody have a timeline for it? This year? Next Year? Few Years? Just thinking about potentially buying at some point but if a new version is anywhere on the horizon, may hold off.

No idea I'm afraid. pCars took it's sweet time iirc

Grim.Reaper · October 07, 2016, 05:48:26 PM

Gosh darn it....Project cars on sale this weekend on steam....$15 for standard and about $25 for game of the year.....that seems like a good deal, but so many games bought recently:(

RyanE · October 07, 2016, 06:42:01 PM

I just bought the darned thing for $50 5 days ago!

Grim.Reaper · October 07, 2016, 06:49:50 PM

Quote from: RyanE on October 07, 2016, 06:42:01 PM
I just bought the darned thing for $50 5 days ago!

Ouch...that's why I may just need to pick it up now, don't know if I'll see that kind of price drop anytime soon.

Grim.Reaper · October 08, 2016, 03:24:47 PM

And I caved....figured that I wouldn't see this kind of price for GOTY edition, so what the heck...at it to the backlog.

Grim.Reaper · October 08, 2016, 05:53:13 PM

First race....finished 13 out of 20.....was a pretty tight course and was able to take one of my favorite cars a Mustang for a spin....certainly different than F1 2016 but satisfying so far....using a controller is working out just fine....kicking myself for holding out on these games since I thought I would need a wheel (still would be fun).

rocketman · October 09, 2016, 07:45:32 AM

Bought the GOTY edition yesterday on sale for more or less a bargain. First test drives with controller felt pretty good. Lowering steering sensitivity helped. I think I will like this game even though not a hard core driving game player.

Grim.Reaper · October 09, 2016, 07:56:17 AM

So far I am liking as well, haven't spent too much time tinkering with options yet since felt pretty good out of the box, but I am sure to do it at some point....really like how there is so many cars and tracks to try.....really going to keep me busy.

Bardolph · October 09, 2016, 02:50:06 PM

Keep an eye on your local Craigslist and you can usually find a deal on a decent wheel. Look for Logitech DFGT, G25 or G27. Or even the old Driving Force Pro. All solid wheels, some of the hot drivers on iRacing still use them, was in a practice last night with a guy that races Pro level and is still using a DFGT. I picked up my current Fanatec setup off Craigslist for a very good price.
I've tried a little controller driving on Forza and PCars and even mouse driving on iRacing when I couldn't use my wheel at various times, but a wheel makes a huge difference.

JudgeDredd · October 09, 2016, 03:50:05 PM

Out of the racers I have, F1 2016, pCars, GTR2 and Grand Prix Legends are my favourite.

There's a lot of car in pCars for your money.