The Walking Dead...

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undercovergeek

Did that film not show de Niro torturing and killing a prostitute? I may be wrong

GDS_Starfury

Have you actually read the comics GR?
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GDS_Starfury

Im annoyed that they skipped over what could have been a full season of story to get where the show is now.
not only that  but, if anything, they downplayed the scenes violence from the comic.
Jarhead - Yeah. You're probably right.

Gus - I use sweatpants with flannel shorts to soak up my crotch sweat.

Banzai Cat - There is no "partial credit" in grammar. Like anal sex. It's either in, or it's not.

Mirth - We learned long ago that they key isn't to outrun Star, it's to outrun Gus.

Martok - I don't know if it's possible to have an "anti-boner"...but I now have one.

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bbmike

I've never read the comics. Are they better than the show?
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GDS_Starfury

they are the show with a few changes here and there and some parts that have gotten completely skipped over.
Sundays episode was roughly issue #100 from the spring of 2015.
Jarhead - Yeah. You're probably right.

Gus - I use sweatpants with flannel shorts to soak up my crotch sweat.

Banzai Cat - There is no "partial credit" in grammar. Like anal sex. It's either in, or it's not.

Mirth - We learned long ago that they key isn't to outrun Star, it's to outrun Gus.

Martok - I don't know if it's possible to have an "anti-boner"...but I now have one.

Gus - Celery is vile and has no reason to exist. Like underwear on Star.


bayonetbrant

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ghostryder

Did that film not show de Niro torturing and killing a prostitute? I may be wrong

No. she wasn't a prostitute--she worked with the husband and was a family friend---though it was hinted she may have had a fling with the husband. Deniro charms her-she cuffs her hands behind her back--and he breaks her arm then rapes her---but besides a facial shot while he breaks her arm--nothing else is displayed and the scene ends when she screams.


ghostryder

they are the show with a few changes here and there and some parts that have gotten completely skipped over.
Sundays episode was roughly issue #100 from the spring of 2015.


A few changes here and there? Are you kidding? There are drastic differences. For one--no one had to wait during an 8 month long cliffhanger to see if Glenn dies...the comics tell the story in a far more linear and packaged deal. There's not all timeline jump back and forth and so on---as seen in this episode (and used a rediculous amount in season 6) where you got a 20 minute ride with rick and Negan before it jumps back in time to show us the finish to the cliffhangar.

Secondly the Characters are different--some by a great degree-while others don't exist at all in the comic. Carol is no Bad ass in the comic--here TV character is totally different. Beth doesn't exist in the comics- Herschel has quite a few kids—Maggie, but also Shawn, Billy, Lacey, Rachel and Susie. All but Maggie are killed in one way or another by the time the group leaves the prison, along with Herschel himself. The TV show let Herchel live another season longer and he only has Maggie and Beth as children.  Tyreese is another one totally unlike what you see on the show. In the comics, Tyreese plays a bigger role earlier on, being one of the first members to join the Grimes Gang. He becomes almost a co-leader with Rick, a right-hand-man who shares characteristics of both Daryl and pre-psychosis Shane in the TV series. He's an amorous character, striking up a relationship with Carol before cheating on her with a just-arrived Michonne.  After Carol kills herself and his daughter commits suicide, Tyreese hardens his heart in the war against the Governor, before being captured. He's killed as one of the Governor's most prominent victims, beheaded in front of the prison in the same manner as Herschel on the TV show.

Morgan is another one. He does play the important role of being the first person Rick meets in the post-apocalypse, and he does eventually rejoin the Grimes Gang in the comic, but he's a much more meek, background character who never truly amounts to a terrible lot of significance. The whole philosophical, stick-wielding warrior monk/aikido enthusiast role is purely a product of the television show.

It's not just how the characters are written and portrayed--but in the comic Rick loses his hand to the Governor-- the "wolves" do not exist in the comic and Judith dies with lori at the prison in the comic. Andrea's character is completely shafted by the TV series. In the comic she's the most level head badass of the bunch--She progresses through various relationships, always keeps a good head on her shoulders and eventually realizes that she and Rick are destined to be together because they share the will to never stop fighting. That, and she gets an amazing hat and poncho like a female version of Clint Eastwood's Man with No Name. In the TV show, on the other hand, Andrea's wishy washy personality made her instantly disliked by the fans, while her more appealing qualities were slowly and subtly grafted onto another character: Michonne.

Abraham was shown as an oddball on the show while in the comic he's businesslike and down to earth. Denise, Unlike in the series, she's not shown to be gay—her boyfriend is fellow Alexandrian Heath, rather than TV show character Tara—and she doesn't really have many scenes with the survivors. Other differences is Carol's daughter doesn't exist on the show but does, and never dies in the comics--but is adopted by Maggie and Glenn.

I could go on--but generally this is two different beasts altogether.

bayonetbrant

dude... we get it.
and FWIW, if we did the same thing with The Avengers, we'd exceed the character count on several consecutive posts
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GDS_Starfury

Quote from: ghostryder on October 26, 2016, 07:44:36 PM
they are the show with a few changes here and there and some parts that have gotten completely skipped over.
Sundays episode was roughly issue #100 from the spring of 2015.


A few changes here and there? Are you kidding? There are drastic differences. For one--no one had to wait during an 8 month long cliffhanger to see if Glenn dies...the comics tell the story in a far more linear and packaged deal. There's not all timeline jump back and forth and so on---as seen in this episode (and used a rediculous amount in season 6) where you got a 20 minute ride with rick and Negan before it jumps back in time to show us the finish to the cliffhangar.

because one is a comic and the other is a tv show....

Secondly the Characters are different--some by a great degree-while others don't exist at all in the comic. Carol is no Bad ass in the comic--here TV character is totally different. you can shut your whore mouth about the supreme MILF goddess of the end times Beth doesn't exist in the comics- Herschel has quite a few kids—Maggie, but also Shawn, Billy, Lacey, Rachel and Susie. All but Maggie are killed in one way or another by the time the group leaves the prison, along with Herschel himself. The TV show let Herchel live another season longer and he only has Maggie and Beth as children.  Tyreese is another one totally unlike what you see on the show. In the comics, Tyreese plays a bigger role earlier on, being one of the first members to join the Grimes Gang. He becomes almost a co-leader with Rick, a right-hand-man who shares characteristics of both Daryl and pre-psychosis Shane in the TV series. He's an amorous character, striking up a relationship with Carol before cheating on her with a just-arrived Michonne.  After Carol kills herself and his daughter commits suicide, Tyreese hardens his heart in the war against the Governor, before being captured. He's killed as one of the Governor's most prominent victims, beheaded in front of the prison in the same manner as Herschel on the TV show.
its a tv show

Morgan is another one. He does play the important role of being the first person Rick meets in the post-apocalypse, and he does eventually rejoin the Grimes Gang in the comic, but he's a much more meek, background character who never truly amounts to a terrible lot of significance. The whole philosophical, stick-wielding warrior monk/aikido enthusiast role is purely a product of the television show.
::)
It's not just how the characters are written and portrayed--but in the comic Rick loses his hand to the Governor-- the "wolves" do not exist in the comic and Judith dies with lori at the prison in the comic. Andrea's character is completely shafted by the TV series. In the comic she's the most level head badass of the bunch--She progresses through various relationships, always keeps a good head on her shoulders and eventually realizes that she and Rick are destined to be together because they share the will to never stop fighting. That, and she gets an amazing hat and poncho like a female version of Clint Eastwood's Man with No Name. In the TV show, on the other hand, Andrea's wishy washy personality made her instantly disliked by the fans, while her more appealing qualities were slowly and subtly grafted onto another character: Michonne.
::)
Abraham was shown as an oddball on the show while in the comic he's businesslike and down to earth. Denise, Unlike in the series, she's not shown to be gay—her boyfriend is fellow Alexandrian Heath, rather than TV show character Tara—and she doesn't really have many scenes with the survivors. Other differences is Carol's daughter doesn't exist on the show but does, and never dies in the comics--but is adopted by Maggie and Glenn.
::)
I could go on--but generally this is two different beasts altogether.

you make love like 2 grit sandpaper.
Jarhead - Yeah. You're probably right.

Gus - I use sweatpants with flannel shorts to soak up my crotch sweat.

Banzai Cat - There is no "partial credit" in grammar. Like anal sex. It's either in, or it's not.

Mirth - We learned long ago that they key isn't to outrun Star, it's to outrun Gus.

Martok - I don't know if it's possible to have an "anti-boner"...but I now have one.

Gus - Celery is vile and has no reason to exist. Like underwear on Star.


JudgeDredd

I appreciated the post GhostRyder because I have no idea about the comics - never read one.

Obviously as I haven't read the comics, it doesn't bother me that they've changed the TV show from them...but I get how people into the comics may be miffed at the way the characters have been set out.

O0
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JudgeDredd

Quote from: GDS_Starfury on October 27, 2016, 12:27:40 AM
Quote from: ghostryder on October 26, 2016, 07:44:36 PM
they are the show with a few changes here and there and some parts that have gotten completely skipped over.
Sundays episode was roughly issue #100 from the spring of 2015.


A few changes here and there? Are you kidding? There are drastic differences. For one--no one had to wait during an 8 month long cliffhanger to see if Glenn dies...the comics tell the story in a far more linear and packaged deal. There's not all timeline jump back and forth and so on---as seen in this episode (and used a rediculous amount in season 6) where you got a 20 minute ride with rick and Negan before it jumps back in time to show us the finish to the cliffhangar.

because one is a comic and the other is a tv show....

Secondly the Characters are different--some by a great degree-while others don't exist at all in the comic. Carol is no Bad ass in the comic--here TV character is totally different. you can shut your whore mouth about the supreme MILF goddess of the end times Beth doesn't exist in the comics- Herschel has quite a few kids—Maggie, but also Shawn, Billy, Lacey, Rachel and Susie. All but Maggie are killed in one way or another by the time the group leaves the prison, along with Herschel himself. The TV show let Herchel live another season longer and he only has Maggie and Beth as children.  Tyreese is another one totally unlike what you see on the show. In the comics, Tyreese plays a bigger role earlier on, being one of the first members to join the Grimes Gang. He becomes almost a co-leader with Rick, a right-hand-man who shares characteristics of both Daryl and pre-psychosis Shane in the TV series. He's an amorous character, striking up a relationship with Carol before cheating on her with a just-arrived Michonne.  After Carol kills herself and his daughter commits suicide, Tyreese hardens his heart in the war against the Governor, before being captured. He's killed as one of the Governor's most prominent victims, beheaded in front of the prison in the same manner as Herschel on the TV show.
its a tv show

Morgan is another one. He does play the important role of being the first person Rick meets in the post-apocalypse, and he does eventually rejoin the Grimes Gang in the comic, but he's a much more meek, background character who never truly amounts to a terrible lot of significance. The whole philosophical, stick-wielding warrior monk/aikido enthusiast role is purely a product of the television show.
::)
It's not just how the characters are written and portrayed--but in the comic Rick loses his hand to the Governor-- the "wolves" do not exist in the comic and Judith dies with lori at the prison in the comic. Andrea's character is completely shafted by the TV series. In the comic she's the most level head badass of the bunch--She progresses through various relationships, always keeps a good head on her shoulders and eventually realizes that she and Rick are destined to be together because they share the will to never stop fighting. That, and she gets an amazing hat and poncho like a female version of Clint Eastwood's Man with No Name. In the TV show, on the other hand, Andrea's wishy washy personality made her instantly disliked by the fans, while her more appealing qualities were slowly and subtly grafted onto another character: Michonne.
::)
Abraham was shown as an oddball on the show while in the comic he's businesslike and down to earth. Denise, Unlike in the series, she's not shown to be gay—her boyfriend is fellow Alexandrian Heath, rather than TV show character Tara—and she doesn't really have many scenes with the survivors. Other differences is Carol's daughter doesn't exist on the show but does, and never dies in the comics--but is adopted by Maggie and Glenn.
::)
I could go on--but generally this is two different beasts altogether.

you make love like 2 grit sandpaper.
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GDS_Starfury

Quote from: JudgeDredd on October 27, 2016, 12:40:25 AM
I appreciated the post GhostRyder because I have no idea about the comics - never read one.

Obviously as I haven't read the comics, it doesn't bother me that they've changed the TV show from them...but I get how people into the comics may be miffed at the way the characters have been set out.

O0

if they followed the comics strictly there would be no suspense as the story is already know.

now what I would like to see it a HBO series take on World War Z.  1 hour episode for each chapter and you've got 2 years of money making tv.
Jarhead - Yeah. You're probably right.

Gus - I use sweatpants with flannel shorts to soak up my crotch sweat.

Banzai Cat - There is no "partial credit" in grammar. Like anal sex. It's either in, or it's not.

Mirth - We learned long ago that they key isn't to outrun Star, it's to outrun Gus.

Martok - I don't know if it's possible to have an "anti-boner"...but I now have one.

Gus - Celery is vile and has no reason to exist. Like underwear on Star.


JudgeDredd

I liked World War Z - but I hated the zombies - they were too fast  :o
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undercovergeek

While we're on the subject of zombies, how come they're weak as tissue paper and made of porridge until they catch you and then they can literally tear you apart, rip through stomachs with steel hands