Strategic Command WWII: War in Europe

[Rayfer]

What scale are the units supposed to represent - or is that abstracted too?

As per the counters they are Corps and Armies.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.....counters are corps and armies on land, and yet at sea they are individual ships with only one allowed per hex. I have never understood why this series never went to fleets for sea counters. The one ship per hex makes no sense at all. What am I missing here?

[Raied]

What scale are the units supposed to represent - or is that abstracted too?

As per the counters they are Corps and Armies.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.....counters are corps and armies on land, and yet at sea they are individual ships with only one allowed per hex. I have never understood why this series never went to fleets for sea counters. The one ship per hex makes no sense at all. What am I missing here?

You are right, it doesn't make any sense I agree with you, this is the same problem also other games had such as commander: the great war, the solution is simple, just make it fleet as you mentioned, and the tech should determine if for example your subs are strong or weak within the fleet.

[JudgeDredd]

come on ....you always pick $79 :) ...of course last time you were right

I would love to be wrong....kind of hoping for $39 range, but guessing not very likely.  As usual they are quiet about the cost but only 2 days away from release.

lol @ pouncing the price on the public on release 

I've said before and I'll say again - given the flame wars that occur when a games price at Matrix is revealed, why the hell you would want that to mar the release day is beyond me.  :pullhair:

[Grim.Reaper]

Yep, but I guess we only have a day to find out....

[FarAway Sooner]

It's the Final Countdown!

[JudgeDredd]

Here you go lads....

Digital is reasonably priced, but if you live in the UK and want Physical copy for the manual...



Digital copy £34.99
Physical Copy +£12.00
Delivery £29.97
Total £76.96

British company apparently (Slitherine) and no UK postage.

I don't even know if that includes VAT which we pay here and if it's shipping from the US, there will be a customs charge on that too.  :DD

[-budd-]

Seems reasonable, probably picking this up this weekend. Asked a question about the manual over at Matrix, don't see many details on the manual.

[PanzerFaust]

From Matrix forum:

Where are you based? The Physical version is only $54.99, digital $39.99. Shipping to Europe is expensive and costs around $30+.

We will be adding the game to Amazon in UK and US next week which offers low or free shipping depending on your location. We've been struggling to find better shipping options but nobody seems to offer us anything better sadly. We're trying to get a European warehouse opened again to reduce costs but we cant compete with Amazon on this so we supply them direct so you can do that if you prefer.

We're just waiting for the stock to arrive at Amazon. It only just arrived at our warehouse, it has to be integrated, manufactured with disks and shipped off to Amazon. We'll see if we can get pre-orders set up so you can order now.

Once the game is on Amazon you can get the manual for much cheaper

[-budd-]

I see it's $15 to upgrade, must be one of those nice manuals. $54 for hardcopy.

[Philippe]

I can't imagine paying that for anything that wasn't massive and extraordinary.

The download price is basically $40 (US), which is about what I would expect for something like this, and in line (slightly less, actually) with what Battlefront sells the WW I game for.

I was a Beta tester and just re-read the NDA, and my interpretation of that document is that I still have to be fairly judicious about what I say.

If you're a Strategic Command fanboy, you'll love the game and shell out eighty quid for a hard copy without thinking twice.

I will spend the next month trying to decide whether to buy the download version or not, partially because I'm seriously broke and the game isn't on my must-have list.

[-budd-]

Got reply about the manual. There's shots of it on Ian's Twitter account, looks nice. This seems like a game where the manual might not get to outdated. I'd post a link but I'm at work.

[JudgeDredd]

I laid out in my post the breakdown of the price - just so there's no confusion about what I was disgruntled about...

The actual price of the game is fine and the upgrade to physical is fine as well with a good looking manual

The "ultimate" price is ridiculous and it's down to postage. My beef is why does Matrix/Slitherine not have a UK/EU distribution centre? Slitherine are a UK company. I thought that was sorted (eventually) for World in Flames?

On top of that cost to buy, you will have a customs charge. It happened with people who bought World in Flames and it will happen with this one.

Just so I'm absolutely clear - there is no problem with the price if you are in the US. It's a reasonable price for it. But if you are outside the US, you're "reasonable price" is anything but.

[JudgeDredd]

From Matrix forum:

Where are you based? The Physical version is only $54.99, digital $39.99. Shipping to Europe is expensive and costs around $30+.

We will be adding the game to Amazon in UK and US next week which offers low or free shipping depending on your location. We've been struggling to find better shipping options but nobody seems to offer us anything better sadly. We're trying to get a European warehouse opened again to reduce costs but we cant compete with Amazon on this so we supply them direct so you can do that if you prefer.

We're just waiting for the stock to arrive at Amazon. It only just arrived at our warehouse, it has to be integrated, manufactured with disks and shipped off to Amazon. We'll see if we can get pre-orders set up so you can order now.

Once the game is on Amazon you can get the manual for much cheaper

Fair enough...but I thought the EU warehouse was sorted - that's all.

[-budd-]

I wouldn't buy hardcopy at your price either. Until I bought DCB hard copy I hadn't bought a disk in a decade, forgot how much I enjoyed reading a good manual a PDF just isn't the same enjoyment to me.

[Grim.Reaper]

Its even expensive to ship to US.....$20 shipping.  The book upgrade and shipping costs just about the same as the game itself....that's nuts.  How can I ship a book or box from my own home for a few dollars while they need to charge that much?