Strategic Command WWII: War in Europe

[Grim.Reaper]

GR

Saw your very reasonable post over at Matrix/Slitherine and - as usual - was astounded with the response.

I didn't understand why so many people were saying that $20 was ludicrous for a company with the benefit of *mass* distribution - who can be in a position to negotiate terms with the postal services - when as an individual you can post the same book for less than $10  :wow:

I was also bemused by the response that perhaps the price of the manuals should be increased falsely so postage costs could be reduced - truly a "scratch the head"  :pullhair: statement

I'd be very interested in your thoughts on the game  :dreamer:

Hello JD, yeah I was pretty frustrated with them, more so that they evaded the questions....they asked for people to provide cheaper options, they did and were promptly ignored.  And then they make the statement about increasing book cost to "fake" people out, very bad decision for a company rep to say something like that.  Next time they raise prices, I am going to think they are trying to make up shipping costs.

As for the game, haven't had much time to really get into it, but I am off for the next week so hopefully will find some time to give it a whirl.

[-budd-]

looked like a really nice book manual too. Feel kinda bad for the Dev, seems like a lot more people would bought the hard copy with better shipping costs. If the DCB manual would of had $20 shipping charge i wouldnt of bought that one either, even with me being a fanboy of Vic's games. Just not going to pay more for shipping than the product, especially when i shipped stuff heavier for less. Those flat rate boxes weight doesnt matter[unless thats changed since i shipped last] whatever you can stuff in there.

As for the game i like it. Have to get used to the no stacking, i've screwed myself a few times by not moving units in the right order. The bigger the scale gets the more i get overwhelmed and suck at the gameplay. I find this really accessible and not overwhelming and havent run into any major bugs yet, a few are mentioned on tech forum. Some events have misfired, like after i took Paris an event said France moral falls as Germans approach Paris and sometimes i havent been able to swap units like the manual says, not sure why. I think i'm in Dec 1940, i'm not doing sealion and have moved my units to the east for Barbarossa. The Africa corps just got deployed to help the italians in Africa. Ive played a few turns as allies and then a few as axis and then restarted as axis. There is random elements, one time after Russia attacked Finland the allies sent troops and they didnt make it before the Finland surrender, next time the troops made it to help out the Fins and that swung the Fins toward the allies so i had to drop 3 diplomacy chits on Finland as i need them to swing my way to help once i get deep into Russia. I've had some fun playing hide and seek with the RN in the North sea and Atlantic, took out an aircraft carrier that had strayed a little too far from its escorts. It's been fun and i find myself planning my strategies while at work. One cool feature is that i'm playing German only the AI plays the rest of axis but if i want to move a few units for my axis partners i can and the AI will do the rest, i did that in France as the Italians weren't being much help in pressing France. You can also switch sides at any time and play that out. I'm still working my way through the manual but you can defiantly pick this up and start playing. One thing i would like to see is more detailed reports, right now you seem to only get reports on events or units lost, i'd like to see all combats shown in the report and clicking on them takes you to that site. I think more detailed reports are needed as i dont think i'll being watching the screen the whole time once the turns get long.

[airboy]

Getting the physical version costs $15 plus $20 shipping in the USA.  That is a pretty hefty shipping charge.

Looking forward to it being available on Amazon.

[Al]

For those that ordered the manual have you received it yet?

[-budd-]

i looked at other prices for Matrix/Slitherine games on Amazon before i went with DD. i don't think it will be much cheaper overall judging by the cost of the others. What do you think Grim $79.99 ;D i'm guessing in the $60's

[Millipede]

For those that ordered the manual have you received it yet?

Just got an email from Matrix saying that it's been shipped... eta 11/28

[-budd-]

Up for order on US Amazon $55.99 ships Dec. 5th. Guess I should of waited  :) with prime, shipping would of been free.

[JudgeDredd]

£46.99 in Amazon.co.uk...3 left

[bbmike]

£46.99 in Amazon.co.uk...3 left

Were there 4 before you posted that?  ^-^

[JudgeDredd]

lol 

No purchase here. I wasn't overly keen on some of the mechanics. Manual looked delicious though, so if I was getting it, it would've been with the manual.

[Grim.Reaper]

Its funny, at least for me the Amazon option is more expensive then if I had bought it through the Matrix store because I had a coupon.  I could have got for about $53, while at Amazon costs the $55.  Still no sale for me and glad I didn't buy the book, I have easily used the electronic manual without any issues.

[airboy]

Its funny, at least for me the Amazon option is more expensive then if I had bought it through the Matrix store because I had a coupon.  I could have got for about $53, while at Amazon costs the $55.  Still no sale for me and glad I didn't buy the book, I have easily used the electronic manual without any issues.

I have a big (10") Kindle Fire.  Will the manual read well in it?  I'm torn between the $40 download at the matrix site and the $55 on Amazon with free delivery.

[-budd-]

Its funny, at least for me the Amazon option is more expensive then if I had bought it through the Matrix store because I had a coupon.  I could have got for about $53, while at Amazon costs the $55.  Still no sale for me and glad I didn't buy the book, I have easily used the electronic manual without any issues.

I have a big (10") Kindle Fire.  Will the manual read well in it?  I'm torn between the $40 download at the matrix site and the $55 on Amazon with free delivery.

I have a kindle 6 for my manuals works great, kinda wish I choose the bigger display now though.

[Grim.Reaper]

Its funny, at least for me the Amazon option is more expensive then if I had bought it through the Matrix store because I had a coupon.  I could have got for about $53, while at Amazon costs the $55.  Still no sale for me and glad I didn't buy the book, I have easily used the electronic manual without any issues.

I have a big (10") Kindle Fire.  Will the manual read well in it?  I'm torn between the $40 download at the matrix site and the $55 on Amazon with free delivery.

I use an iPad and works great.....don't have a kindle so sorry can't say for sure.

[bbmike]

I know it's probably been discussed but is there a way to print it out other than at home?