Alien: Covenant

[BanzaiCat]

Alien 4 was...different. Enjoyable to a point, but not nearly as good as the other movies (though better than 3). It didn't help that Joss Whedon's script was pretty much shredded by Jean-Pierre Jeunet.

[Gusington]

There was is no way on God's green earth that Alien 4 is better than Alien 3.

[BanzaiCat]

I think 3 and 4 are pretty much the same quality, e.g. steaming piles of feces. :)

Though I think we've argued this point, Gus, at least once a year for the last three years. Alien 3 has grown on me - a little. A very little. I remember seeing 4 in the theaters and thought it was much better than 3, at least until that stupid hybrid thing at the end. I mean, come on...Ron Perlman was a big part of my enjoyment of 4. Without him that movie would have been easily the worst of the franchise. IMO anyway.

[Gusington]

I think this argument reaches back to the other site and perhaps as far back as 2002.

[mirth]

I think this argument reaches back to the other site and perhaps as far back as 2002.

If you'd just accept that you are wrong, we could move on with our lives.

[BanzaiCat]

I think this argument reaches back to the other site and perhaps as far back as 2002.

No doubt.

Oh, and the underwater scene in 4 was pretty good, too.

[Gusington]

Alien 4 just rings hallow to me, where Alien 3 does not...it feels authentic to the Alien universe.

[mirth]

Oh, and the underwater scene in 4 was pretty good, too.

By far, the best part of that movie.

Well, the basketball scene was pretty good too.

[Barthheart]

Alien 4 just rings hallow to me, where Alien 3 does not...it feels authentic to the Alien universe.

You've clearly been eating too much "Canadian Bacon"....  L:-)

[mirth]

Alien 4 just rings hallow to me, where Alien 3 does not...it feels authentic to the Alien universe.

Alien 3 feels authentic to the universe?! You're insane 

[BanzaiCat]

I can tell Alien 3 to go jump off a cliff and die in a nuclear blast because of killing off Newt and Hicks at the very start. I knew nothing about the movie before I saw it in the theater (spoilers were a LOT easier to avoid back in the day) and you cannot imagine the nerd rage I felt in the first few minutes of that film. I think that really pissed me off so much that the rest of the movie was totally ruined for me, and my first impression was therefore this was a steaming pile of nerfherder shite. I've slowly raised my opinion of it up a notch or two over the years, but not by much.

[mirth]

I can tell Alien 3 to go jump off a cliff and die in a nuclear blast because of killing off Newt and Hicks at the very start.

This. They totally negated Aliens in the first 5 minutes.

[Gusington]

I understand the nerd rage ... no one gets nerd rage more than me.  But getting over that, even for just a minute, and look at Alien 3 without the red lens of hot nerd anger...and I see a not so bad Alien movie. I have already apologized for this. Alien 4 made me more angry...just for sucking more.

I take this moment and pause to apologize for enjoying Prometheus as well.

[BanzaiCat]

Hell, Gus, don't apologize for liking something I don't...more power to you. I just didn't like the film that much (obviously). If you did, great for you.

Prometheus was...okay. I didn't like it. I thought it was on the south side of mediocre, but just barely.

[Gusington]

It's an apology to you, Bart, mirth, etc. for not seeing eye to eye with you guys cinematically.