Wait, a proper WH40k game? Turn based dawn of war shenanigans?

[Cyrano]

$29.99 for AMIs on Steam.

Please observe that they've installed PBEM++ for a game on Steam.

On Steam.

My son and I have been playing Borderlands 2 for hours at a time, sometimes with his cousin.  Our sessions last far longer than any game of Sanctus Reach is likely to prove.  This is becoming tedious.

Mark 1:3

In space, no one can hear the stupid.

But it cries softly to itself.

[Nefaro]

Somebody really dislikes PBEM++   ???


Or is it the lack of direct IP multi-player?

[PipFromSlitherine]

Almost every game we have on Steam supports PBEM++, so not sure why it would be a shock.  Ignoring the problems with actually organising games that you have to sit through, the main issue isn't the length of a session, it's the time spent sitting waiting on your opponent to make their move, in front of a static map.

But I appreciate that if you dislike the approach, no amount of telling you how many people love it is going to change your mind.

Cheers

Pip

[Cyrano]

Entirely the latter.

It's significantly diminished my desire to play Fields of Glory, Pike and Shot, Battle Academy, and now this as each of these could be easily played in single-sitting IP sessions.

...and I can't say I'm not peeved that this trade is being made in the interest of what began as a DRM.

[Cyrano]

@Pip:  No shock, disappointment.

And long sessions staring at a map? That's what we used to call gaming.  Many still do.

PBEM++ Delenda Est

[Barthheart]

[panzerde]

@Pip:  No shock, disappointment.

And long sessions staring at a map? That's what we used to call gaming.  Many still do.

PBEM++ Delenda Est

I keep trying to get you to try Vassal with some actual wargames, but oh, no...


Probably too busy mixing components between boxes.

[Barthheart]

@Pip:  No shock, disappointment.

And long sessions staring at a map? That's what we used to call gaming.  Many still do.

PBEM++ Delenda Est

I keep trying to get you to try Vassal with some actual wargames, but oh, no...


Probably too busy mixing components between boxes.

Speaking of which, Doug, we need to get a game going... of anything.
:D

[panzerde]

Speaking of which, Doug, we need to get a game going... of anything.
:D

Agreed. LnLT?

[PipFromSlitherine]

Entirely the latter.

It's significantly diminished my desire to play Fields of Glory, Pike and Shot, Battle Academy, and now this as each of these could be easily played in single-sitting IP sessions.

...and I can't say I'm not peeved that this trade is being made in the interest of what began as a DRM.

I'm not sure what the DRM line is about.  The system has nothing to do with any DRM-type thinking.  It's something we came up with for turn-based games to remove the hassles of trying to set up and complete games.  This change led to our games having 1000s-10000s of games ongoing at one time, rather than (literally) single digits.  That said, we do have some games (and desire for more) that support modes more similar to the kind of thing you seem to be preferential toward.

Cheers

Pip

[Barthheart]

Speaking of which, Doug, we need to get a game going... of anything.
:D

Agreed. LnLT?

Sure. Normandy?

[panzerde]

Works for me!

[Cyrano]

@Pip:  This is all the fallacy of the wicked alternative.  For all my ranting, I loathe PBEM++ only because it seems to have supplanted direct play for you guys.  Give me direct play and I'll even promise to say nice things about PBEM++ for those that like it.

@Doug:  There you have me.  I still want to give Marengo an HTH at some point, though.

@Vance:  I have an howitzer and am NOT afraid to use it.  You kids damn well will stay off my lawn.

[panzerde]

It's true, he does have a howitzer.


Marengo HTH any time is good with me. I been practicin'!

[JasonPratt]

Well, I'm fine with PBEM++. And aside from a reported bug killing and restarting all progress after finishing the first mission (which I suppose will soon be fixed), I'm ready to buy it today! I see it on Steam!

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