CM Fortress Italy Upgrade 4

Michael Dorosh · March 31, 2017, 12:12:56 PM

Thanks, gents. Thought maybe I had missed some big announcement. I am subscribed to their newsletter but it seems to always bring the 'big' news a couple of weeks or more 'after' the big thing has been released.

Sounds like they are in Montgomery mode, 'tidying up their lines' so to speak and bringing the current stuff up to the same standard. Some logic in it, I guess.

undercovergeek · April 01, 2017, 02:18:50 AM

Probably a reworking of the entire engine - CM3 so to speak

ArizonaTank · April 02, 2017, 03:26:24 PM

For some reason, my upgrade never took.

I bought the upgrade, applied it, but Gustav Line was then deactivated. After a few weeks go around with the help desk (they were actually very responsive, but I was traveling so I could not respond timely), I had to deactivate, reinstall and then I managed to get Gustav working again. But the upgrade did not take.

Anyway, after several hours of futzing around with CMFI / GL and upgrade, I just gave up.... and I am out my $10....

As nice and as friendly as the help desk is, they are supporting a stupid upgrade / activation scheme.

I won't be buying any more upgrades until they figure out a better way.

Ubercat · April 02, 2017, 07:39:23 PM

Quote from: ArizonaTank on April 02, 2017, 03:26:24 PM
I won't be buying any more upgrades until they figure out a better way.

They won't, for two reasons. Number 1: People keep buying their games with the shitty DLC scheme, and B: They keep taking heat^* for the shitty DLC so coming up with a better alternative would be too much like swallowing pride and admitting error.

*Not on their own well policed forums.

demjansk1942 · April 04, 2017, 04:47:30 AM

I lost interest in all these upgrades, to me, a lousy way to do this plus the games don't go down in price. I am not paying $55.00 for Black Sea when I can get a few other top games for the same price. I have moved to Matrix for most games

Michael Dorosh · April 06, 2017, 10:28:33 PM

Quote from: ArizonaTank on April 02, 2017, 03:26:24 PM
For some reason, my upgrade never took.

I bought the upgrade, applied it, but Gustav Line was then deactivated. After a few weeks go around with the help desk (they were actually very responsive, but I was traveling so I could not respond timely), I had to deactivate, reinstall and then I managed to get Gustav working again. But the upgrade did not take.

Anyway, after several hours of futzing around with CMFI / GL and upgrade, I just gave up.... and I am out my $10....

As nice and as friendly as the help desk is, they are supporting a stupid upgrade / activation scheme.

I won't be buying any more upgrades until they figure out a better way.

I managed to upgrade CMBN and CMRT but for some reason, my Gustav Line was deactivated. My Fortress Italy seems equally useless now.

ArizonaTank · April 06, 2017, 11:16:15 PM

Quote from: Michael Dorosh on April 06, 2017, 10:28:33 PM
I managed to upgrade CMBN and CMRT but for some reason, my Gustav Line was deactivated. My Fortress Italy seems equally useless now.

well, at least now I don't feel alone, or crazy...;)

RyanE · April 07, 2017, 06:04:30 AM

I had the same issue also. A couple things:

You need to install updates and patches in specific order and make sure you still have activations for GL. I had an issue where I somehow lost an activation during upgrades. I ended up spending $5 on CMFI 3.0 again to get some back.

RyanE · April 07, 2017, 06:20:36 AM

This discussion made me go back over and see what the status of the update is. Looks like it is still a little bit before its released. I guess this shows why the product release speed is crawling. If it takes this long and this much effort to fix the OOBs for one game's upgrade, it must take years o develop a new game or module.

ArizonaTank · April 07, 2017, 08:30:56 AM

Quote from: RyanE on April 07, 2017, 06:04:30 AM
I had the same issue also. A couple things:

You need to install updates and patches in specific order and make sure you still have activations for GL. I had an issue where I somehow lost an activation during upgrades. I ended up spending $5 on CMFI 3.0 again to get some back.

To fix it, I did a complete deactivation, then step by step install. And after a few hours of that (looking for old SNs etc.), I just got a very bad taste in my mouth for the whole process. I gave up once I got to a place where GL was at least working again...even though the new version did not take.

I'm too old and too busy to be spending hours of my life fixing software installs for games when there are so many other great options.

IMHO, my experience with the CMFI patch is an example of the kind of dogged devotion to protecting IP that eventually made Storm Eagle Studios the powerhouse of computer publishing it has become..(lots of dripping sarcasm...;) ): I would hate to see Battlefront go down the same path.

RyanE · April 07, 2017, 09:18:06 AM

I think BFC recognizes that to some extent. It has gotten better, but every change in DRM strategy seems to come with new issues.

Michael Dorosh · April 07, 2017, 01:06:41 PM

Interesting discussion guys, thanks.

sandman2575 · April 07, 2017, 01:19:41 PM

Quote from: RyanE on April 07, 2017, 06:20:36 AM
I guess this shows why the product release speed is crawling. If it takes this long and this much effort to fix the OOBs for one game's upgrade, it must take years o develop a new game or module.

I do find it a bit shocking how long it's taking them to get the 4.0 update ready for FI/GL. When they released 4.0 in December, they mentioned that FI/GL still needed "a little more time" -- well, it has been over 3 months now... and still waiting. Agree it does not bode well for the pace of putting out actual new content, which really doesn't appear to be anywhere on the horizon, since updating Shock Force doesn't really fit the bill.

RyanE · April 07, 2017, 02:14:32 PM

I think the CMSF upgrade in 2017 is very suspect. My guess is probably mid- to end-2018. That is a whole lot of content and if CMFI is taking 4-5 months just fix OOBs, I can't imagine how long the CMSF modules will take.

And we were already a quarter through 2017, plus all the other things they say they are working on.

jomni · April 07, 2017, 05:14:24 PM

Quote from: RyanE on April 07, 2017, 02:14:32 PM
I think the CMSF upgrade in 2017 is very suspect. My guess is probably mid- to end-2018. That is a whole lot of content and if CMFI is taking 4-5 months just fix OOBs, I can't imagine how long the CMSF modules will take.

And we were already a quarter through 2017, plus all the other things they say they are working on.

What if they just do the main game? Have people re-buy it. Then do the modules later and have people re-buy them again. :wow: