Recommendations for castle building sim?

[Gusington]

The word 'build' is used in the review that Greybriar posted above...anyway, as long as its EXTREME!1! I'm happy.

Threw it into the Steam cart.

[glen55]

Stronghold is certainly as much of a castle defense game as Interplay's Castles series (which I also played back in the day); in effect it's an upgraded expansion of those games, except without the occasional RPG elements.

I don't understand the point about it not being a castle building sim, though. I've actually played Stronghold, a lot; beat the first game's campaign, and played around on SH2 more than once back in the day (although not extensively). You generally don't start with a castle, so if you're going to defend your castle you need to build a castle, and you can't just throw that up: you have to build a town from scratch first, with economies. Some of it ideally inside the eventual walls, some of it necessarily outside.

That said, maybe it's better to call it a walled-town sim. The castle itself doesn't have rooms per se (although I recall SH2 being more detailed about that.) You're building an extensive series of fortified walls and defensive emplacements around your central keep (which is basically two rooms, top and bottom floor, where the new immigrants spawn from and where you leader retreats to during a successful siege for his final defense.) In that sense, both the Stronghold games and, let's say, Imperium Romanum, are both "castle defense" games.

Except one of them ends up with the player managing an economy to build something that looks and functions a lot more like a castle.  ::) (Note: not IR, although that's a great game, too, and actually quite a lot like what I'm looking to show the nieces.)

I'd say it's a castle design sim more than a castle building sim. You don't tell your builders where to build and then they go there and build it gradually as in the old Castles games ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castles_(video_game) ), but instead you plop down a wall or a gatehouse or a tower or whatever and it's instantly there. You DO have to have enough stone and wood to build it, but the actual building isn't modeled.

[JasonPratt]

Glen -- true, although in that sense Imperium Romanum would be more of a "building" sim, since builders (ahem, slaves actually) do go out and build the fortifications (and other buildings).

[Greybriar]

Has anyone tried Medieval Engineers? It's still in Early Access on Steam and I generally avoid those, but it's on sale for 40% off ($11.99 U.S.) and would at least be something of a castle building sim.

[Jarhead0331]

Has anyone tried Medieval Engineers? It's still in Early Access on Steam and I generally avoid those, but it's on sale for 40% off ($11.99 U.S.) and would at least be something of a castle building sim.

I recommended this at the beginning of this thread. Its good, but it did not grab me like Space Engineers did.

[JasonPratt]

I decided to wait on buying MediEngineers, because the animals and bots have been taken out for a while until they can be adjusted to work with the new "planet" shape. It doesn't seem to be possible to use flat maps (and thus animals and bots) anymore?

[Greybriar]

Has anyone tried Medieval Engineers? It's still in Early Access on Steam and I generally avoid those, but it's on sale for 40% off ($11.99 U.S.) and would at least be something of a castle building sim.

I recommended this at the beginning of this thread. Its good, but it did not grab me like Space Engineers did.

Oops! Sorry, I missed the posts about Medieval Engineers. :P

[Gusington]

Just bought the Stronghold collection and I am installing Stronghold Legends and Stronghold 2 according to Pratt's specific instructions, above.

EDIT: ...and Stronghold EXTREME HD

:)

[Greybriar]

Just bought the Stronghold collection....

Me, too.

[ComradeP]

If the idea is to literally just build a castle and "vintage" isn't a problem, you could check out Castles I and II.

IIRC, there are no buildings within the castle you build, but you can build the actual castle.

I don't remember if the Lords of the Realm II Siege Pack allowed you to build castles in an editor, but that might be a bit primitive as well.

[JasonPratt]

I think I've got Cas1&2 on GoG or somewhere. But I think they'd want to see a township.

[em2nought]

This looks interesting from a more Da Vinci like angle of tearing them down instead of building them up http://store.steampowered.com/app/346010/Besiege/

[Gusington]

^almost bought that during the Steam sale...

[JasonPratt]

Was "Kingdoms" mentioned upthread? Because dang, even for early access that looks very doable, especially with the editor: I can set up situations and let the world go to town (so to speak) while I wander around doing things.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/409590/

[Destraex]

Are you guys following medieval kingdom wars? It seems to be primarily a siege game but will take a year more to be out of early access.