The Mexican Dream

[Gusington]

Have two - don't be fooled by JH's cool facade

VICTORY

[OJsDad]

I'm just happy our Jewish Overlords settle for intellectual debate and not Thunderdome.  Though I'm pretty defenseless in the intellectual area also.   

[Father Ted]

Surely no one could equate offence at the prospect of two men getting married with that generated by the open support of a political movement which pursues genocide?

a legitimate religious conviction or belief.

See, for me, that is an oxymoron.  I realise this is a largely philosophical debate about state intervention we're having here, but sometimes there is room for moral relativism.

(sorry to get all serious again - was typing whilst the cake posts were made)

[Jarhead0331]

Surely no one could equate offence at the prospect of two men getting married with that generated by the open support of a political movement which pursues genocide?

Says who? You? I, of course, agree with your position from a moral position, but I also believe the government should not take sides by determining what belief is more offensive as a rule. This is coming from a Jewish son of a Holocaust survivor.

[mirth]

[OJsDad]

Surely no one could equate offence at the prospect of two men getting married with that generated by the open support of a political movement which pursues genocide?

That's the problem though, those that don't support same-sex marriage, and other non-PC views, are being equated to those that would support genocide. 

[bayonetbrant]

No. Its all a ploy to get Brant to come back for an encore.

[Father Ted]

Surely no one could equate offence at the prospect of two men getting married with that generated by the open support of a political movement which pursues genocide?

That's the problem though, those that don't support same-sex marriage, and other non-PC views, are being equated to those that would support genocide.

Is that really happening?

Also, and I realise this is veering off topic, but what is the general objection to same-sex marriage?  Who does it hurt?  Seems to me genocide hurts a whole lot more people.  So if you're worried that you may get lumped in with genocidal twats for being offended by it then why not let it go?  What would happen to your world?

[OJsDad]

Also, and I realise this is veering off topic, but what is the general objection to same-sex marriage?  Who does it hurt?  Seems to me genocide hurts a whole lot more people.  So if you're worried that you may get lumped in with genocidal twats for being offended by it then why not let it go?  What would happen to your world?

I do let it go.  I work for a company that has embraced the LBGT community.  I've worked with many people that are gay over the years that I've been there.  I've worked with many gay people over that last 27 years. The company I work for has a support group for LBGT employees, along with ones for African Americans, Hispanics, and Woman.  I could look at another job that doesn't embrace homosexuality as much, but I do like my job and my co workers. 

I believe homosexuality is a sin.  But it's God that will pass judgement on them, and me.  No person has ever been appointed judge in God's place, except in their own mind.  There's a huge difference between thinking homosexuality is a sin and wanting to see people harmed because of it. 

But for some reason, because of my beliefs don't align with those on the some, they want to lump me and many others like me in with 'genocidal twats'.  And why is that.  Because too many people are unable to have a conversation and listen to what someone that has a different belief has to say.  Yep, there are people that think homosexuality is a sin that go too far and extreme with their beliefs also.  I've heard people say that what happened in Orlando was deserved because it was a gay club.  What happened there wasn't deserved for any reason. 

You ask what would happen to my world if I let it go.  Nothing.  But what would happen to my world if I told my employer that I think homosexuality is a sin.  I'd be fired for creating a hostile work environment, even though that's never happened.  If what I believed was make public, I, my wife, and my kids would be threated. 

[FarAway Sooner]

Jarhead, I realize that the legal question here is one about religious freedom.  But I'm more interested in what the law should be than what it is.  And I see both sides.

I really ask the question to call attention to the inconsistency on both sides. 

Mirth's example of a Nazi Lesbian Wedding Cake might make it too hard for people of any political stripe to decide where they land on this issue.  Most men would probably be heavily influenced by whether they were hot lesbians or not.  But we're kind of dogs that way.

[SirAndrewD]

Can we go back to being horrified about how bad this game is? 

[JudgeDredd]

Was this about a game? 

[jomni]

Was this about a game? 

A game that shouldn't be made.

[Gusington]

Shouldn't be, perhaps, but the developers have the right to make it and Steam the right to sell it.

[mirth]

I like cake.