Star Wars: The Last Jedi

[bayonetbrant]

How old is she now?

7, but she's also only seen parts of the previous Star Wars movies, despite my best efforts, so trying to make her pay attention to a long one is a fool's errand

Every time we try to watch one of them, as soon as the lightsabers come out, she rushes to her brother's closet, digs out one of his old toy lightsabers, and starts fighting along with the screen, and then wants to start choreographing the Lightsaber Ballet in our living room, which seems to necessitate popcorn, strobe lights, and a Katy Perry soundtrack.  So I just kind of gave up trying to get her to sit thru them and we'll get around to them eventually.

[mirth]

Lightsaber Ballet, awesome.

[bbmike]

Worst fricking slow speed chase since OJ Simpson.

I feel bad for Hamill. He deserved to go out with a decent script and a good tribute to his friend Carrie Fisher. Whether it meant going out as a good guy, or a bad guy, whatever. A bang instead of a whimper. At the very least, a coherent story line. What a mess.

That's as bad as the WW2 bombing stuff. And why didn't the Rebel ships jump in different directions ah-la BSG style? They couldn't have followed all of them. Isn't that better than dying?

[Jarhead0331]

^Completely agree...they are killing off all the heroes from the original series and destroying their legacies by turning them into book-burning, anti-religious, cowards. Meanwhile, women have taken over the rebellion in order to stick it to the irrational, brash and testosterone filled little men. I guess the new millennial audiences would approve of nothing less.

[mirth]

Worst fricking slow speed chase since OJ Simpson.

I feel bad for Hamill. He deserved to go out with a decent script and a good tribute to his friend Carrie Fisher. Whether it meant going out as a good guy, or a bad guy, whatever. A bang instead of a whimper. At the very least, a coherent story line. What a mess.

That's as bad as the WW2 bombing stuff. And why didn't the Rebel ships jump in different directions ah-la BSG style? They couldn't have followed all of them. Isn't that better than dying?

Why wouldn't the First Order jump more ships in to cut off the Resistance? Why not launch every TIE fighter you have to try and damage them enough to allow your capital ships to catch up? That whole slow speed chase was beyond stupid.

And why the frak would the Resistance bombers maintain a tight formation when a hit to a single bomber then took out the nearby bombers? Was this their first time employing bombers?

[bbmike]

^Exactly. And there were a lot of head scratching moments in the movie.

[bayonetbrant]

Was this their first time employing bombers?

it might've been - do you remember any other sequence with the rebels using real bombers? 

plus the whole mission was planned by a fighter pilot

plus, the target area was pretty small so spreading out the bombers would've put them over useless targets

But then again, how many movies use tactical formations that are waaaaay too clustered together so they can get them all in the frame?  Why is every battle scene outside of Saving Private Ryan choreographed to the Tactical Doctrine of Braveheart, instead of spreading out for survivability and letting the range on the weapons do their things?  So that's bad tactics, but there are reasonable in-story explanations for their bad tactics.

[mirth]

Was this their first time employing bombers?

it might've been - do you remember any other sequence with the rebels using real bombers?

Not buying it. 

plus the whole mission was planned by a fighter pilot

I'll give you that.

plus, the target area was pretty small so spreading out the bombers would've put them over useless targets

The target was massive.

[mirth]

we're such a bunch of nerds

[bayonetbrant]

plus, the target area was pretty small so spreading out the bombers would've put them over useless targets

The target was massive.

The Dreadnought was massive. But didn't they need to hit that one specific area, kind of like a repeat of either Death Star Battle?

[mirth]

plus, the target area was pretty small so spreading out the bombers would've put them over useless targets

The target was massive.

The Dreadnought was massive. But didn't they need to hit that one specific area, kind of like a repeat of either Death Star Battle?

I know that last bomber did seem to hit something that seemed to be a vital part of the ship, but even still they would have been better off approaching from multiple angles instead of in a dense cluster that allowed one hit to take out multiple bombers.

And that definitely wasn't the first time the Resistance used bombers against capital ships - http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cobalt_Squadron_(Resistance))




edit - fixed URL

[bayonetbrant]

And that definitely wasn't the first time the Resistance used bombers against capital ships - http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cobalt_Squadron_(Resistance)

Cool - I don't think I knew about them

[Jarhead0331]

Are you guys really debating the use of sound logical tactics in a movie where there is apparently gravity and oxygen...in SPACE!?!?!

[mirth]

[mirth]

Are you guys really debating the use of sound logical tactics in a movie where there is apparently gravity and oxygen...in SPACE!?!?!

Yeah, I know. The reason why the bomber thing stood out to me is that the squadron leader specifically says, "Keep it tight" or something along those lines. And a few seconds later one bomber gets hit and takes out two more. So much for the tight formation.  :D