Star Wars: The Last Jedi

[mirth]

The Christmas Special was genius!

[Arctic Blast]

Phantom Menace sucks pretty much every kind of ball that there is but Last Jedi is as bad, if not worse.  The prequels were bad but at least they got better as they progressed to the point where Sith isn't all that bad if you ignore a few cringey scenes.

See, I'm of the opposite opinion. 1-3 got WORSE as the series progressed. Revenge of the Sith is so loaded down with endless, ponderous scenes of pretentious dialogue and plots that make no damn sense. It's pure dreck.

[jamus34]

Phantom Menace sucks pretty much every kind of ball that there is but Last Jedi is as bad, if not worse.  The prequels were bad but at least they got better as they progressed to the point where Sith isn't all that bad if you ignore a few cringey scenes.

See, I'm of the opposite opinion. 1-3 got WORSE as the series progressed. Revenge of the Sith is so loaded down with endless, ponderous scenes of pretentious dialogue and plots that make no damn sense. It's pure dreck.

Yeah I consider 2 to be the high point of the prequels minus the wooing scenes which were / are painful to watch. 1 sucked for a number of reasons although the saber battle with Darth Maul was a high point. 3 just felt like "we got to get to the end point who cares about the story in between".

[acctingman]

Hayden Christensen ruined those 3 movies for me. I'm sure he is a hell of a human being, but he SUCKED as Anakin Skywussie. 

[Gusington]

We can all agree that Hayden Christiansen is the antichrist(iansen).

[airboy]

Jar Jar the begninng of the end or was it the Ewoks?

Ewoks.  Hate muppets.  Hate Yoda.  Muppets must die.  Send Deadpool after all muppets.

[mirth]

A lot of blame for the lame dialogue and wooden performances in the prequels belongs on George Lucas. He really didn't want nuanced performances from any of the cast.

[Huw the Poo]

A lot of blame for the lame dialogue and wooden performances in the prequels belongs on George Lucas. He really didn't want nuanced performances from any of the cast.

Yeah exactly, he's notoriously bad at directing people.  I remember Peter Serafinowicz saying that his sole direction when recording the dialogue for Darth Maul was: "Make him sound really evil" ;D

[mirth]

Lucas is well known for giving little direction to his actors and what direction he does give is along the lines of "Faster" or "More Intense".  ::)

[Sir Slash]

Ha! That's the same direction my wife gives me. Wait.... that's not so funny.  :-[

[mirth]

^lmao

[BanzaiCat]

A lot of blame for the lame dialogue and wooden performances in the prequels belongs on George Lucas. He really didn't want nuanced performances from any of the cast.

Lucas' wife, at the time of production of Episode IV, was a HUGE force in changing Lucas' crappy dialogue and scene creations. Lucas might have created the universe but I'm fairly well convinced it was his then-wife whom shaped it into something special. She wasn't around for the prequels, and Lucas just simply isn't that talented to be able to live up to the hype and richness she helped to build.

Were it not for her, Star Wars probably would have just been another stupid B-movie like Megaforce, solely existing to make fun of.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/media/the-secret-weapon-behind-star-wars/news-story/75eb078a8b14d93fce23b06e98805ffb

http://www.syfy.co.uk/news/3-ways-which-marcia-lucas-helped-save-star-wars-0

etc. etc.

[mirth]

Yeah, her skill as an editor finally got some props in the past few years. She took the first movie from unwatchable into the awesomeness we saw on the screen.

Considering what George did with the prequels, if Marcia had not been involved with editing the first movie there would probably not been a second.

[Staggerwing]

This goes a long way to helping me understand why I liked Rogue Squadron so much more than most of the recent fare. Imagine what we could have if Joss Whedon gets his shot at an SW flick, complete with rewrite control. Hel, even Kenneth Branagh could probably take a crappy SW script and turn it into an Empire Strikes Back contender.

[BanzaiCat]

At this point I'd rather see an Uwe Boll Star Wars rather than another JJ Abrams one...