War on the Sea coming soon! (from Killerfish Games)

[MengJiao]

Hard to believe this one is a pass for now. It looks so damn good.

   It's pretty atmospheric.  I'm sure Sea Power and Admiral Command Byzantium 1908 carrier battles will have lots of visual interest as well.

[Gusington]

^Wow there's a blast from the past.

[The_Admiral]

   Admiral Command Byzantium 1908 carrier battles

Hum... Rebel phone keyboard I guess?  :arr:
Or is there a Da Vinci code-level enigma in there  ^-^

[MengJiao]

   Admiral Command Byzantium 1908 carrier battles

Hum... Rebel phone keyboard I guess?  :arr:
Or is there a Da Vinci code-level enigma in there  ^-^

  Long ago CMANO needed a name.  For some reason they picked "Command" (ya-da-Operations-ya-da).  I had suggested Byzantium 1908 , but no, it had to be Command (ya-da-Operations-ya-da).  The obviously were secretly unhappy with CMANO cuz CMANO II is called something else ever-so-slightly different.

  Anyway...when I can't quite remember what a game is actually supposed to be called, but I know it has words along the lines of "command" or "Task Force" or "operations" in it...I substitute the not-all-that-ancient term "Byzantium 1908"...just to keep the iconoclastic (or icondulic?) flame buring.

  That's right...what the hell is incodulism?   Apparently it is a compromise position (like not calling CMANO II CMANO II):

Kissing and respected worship (Greek: «ἀσπασμόν καί τιμητικήν προσκύνησιν»; Latin: «osculum et honorariam adorationem»), incense and candles[5][6][7] for icons was established by the Second Council of Nicaea (Seventh Ecumenical Council) in 787. The Council decided that icons should not be destroyed, as was advocated and practiced by the iconoclasts, nor veritable (full) worshiped or adored [8] (Greek: «ἀληθινήν λατρείαν»; Latin: «veram latriam»), as was practiced by iconolatrists, but they needed to be kissed and they needed respectful worship as symbolic representations of God, angels or saints.[9] Such a position was approved by Pope Adrian I, but due to mis-translations of conciliar acts from Greek into Latin, a controversy arose in the Frankish kingdom, resulting in the creation of Libri Carolini.[10] The last outburst of iconoclasm in the Byzantine Empire was overcome at the Council of Constantinople in 843, which reaffirmed the adoration of icons in an event celebrated as the Feast of Orthodoxy.[11]

The Council of Trent (XIX Ecumenical Council of the Catholic Church) in 1563 confirmed iconodulism. But this council, unlike the Council of Nicaea, used a different expression in relation to icons: "honur and veneration" (Latin: honorem et venerationem). Its decree reads: "we kiss, and before which we uncover the head, and prostrate ourselves, we adore Christ; and we venerate the saints, whose similitude they bear" (Latin: «ita ut per imagines, quas osculamur, et coram quibus caput aperimus, et procumbimus, Christum adoremus, et Sanctos quorum illae similitudinem gerunt, veneremur»

[ArizonaTank]

I've been playing around with it. Not enough to have a good, well-informed opinion yet.

I am focusing on the campaign...it sort of reminds me of the Pacific Storm campaign, not necessarily historically accurate, but really there to generate some good gun fights.

I think once the devs get some more campaign content (the system is screaming for a German early war convoy raider campaign), spruce up air operations (particularly with carriers), the game will be a contender.

[MengJiao]

   I ran the Devastator torpedo attack on March 10...the Lae-Salamaua raid.  The damage on the Imperial shipping was about right.  Three big hits out of 10 ships attacked by torpedoes.  Here a Devastator turns for a better look at the damage:

[The_Admiral]

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[Toonces]

Meng can be a little bit challenging to interpret sometimes.  I don't think he's malicious in any way, though.

Let's carry on in love and respect.   

[Hot lead and dirty talk!]

What's so funny 'bout Peace, Love and Understanding?

Pratt, thank you for the video. I really enjoyed that Wolfpack guys commentary and watched a few other of his videos. Good stuff right there!

The game graphics wise looks sensational but alas, I shall wait based upon my peers astute observations.

[The_Admiral]

Meng can be a little bit challenging to interpret sometimes.  I don't think he's malicious in any way, though.

Let's carry on in love and respect.   

No worries, a man like you speaking on his behalf is worth a thousand Synods I presume    ^-^

Mengjiao, apologies for the epidermic reaction. Please feel free to call it the way you want, after all it's just a game.

[Toonces]

I tried to send you a PM but perhaps the grog has gotten in the way.

Just be cool.  Everyone.

Internet forum posts are always tough from which to get tone and attitude.

We're all friends here.  We can have dissenting attitudes.  If nothing, Grogheads is very, very liberal about free criticism of games; positive or negative.
Carry on.

[Toonces]

Yeah!

[Yskonyn]

Shall we swap roles, Toonces!
Nice bit of pacifying there, buddy!  :clap:  :)

[MengJiao]

Meng can be a little bit challenging to interpret sometimes.  I don't think he's malicious in any way, though.

Let's carry on in love and respect.   

No worries, a man like you speaking on his behalf is worth a thousand Synods I presume    ^-^

Mengjiao, apologies for the epidermic reaction. Please feel free to call it the way you want, after all it's just a game.

   Sorry, Admiral -- I missed your reaction.  Just so we are clear, I support your efforts on the nautical front and I hope the results for your game are
better than CMANO's -- which seem a bit disappointing.  Sea Power is more along the lines I would find enjoyable.  What are your plans for New Caledonia?  I mean in the game you are working on.

[The_Admiral]

No worries Mengjiao, it's all fine Bud! 

Regarding New Caledonia, that one French territory will unfortunately not feature on-map for vol.1 (that is before we venture into an actual SOPAC campaign someday). The map of the area stops south of Efate for now - a necessary evil I am afraid to make sure we would have all the space we need for a battle like Santa Cruz, up north.

Cheers!