Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnoughts work in progress.

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ArizonaTank

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Quote from: DetCord on December 22, 2021, 01:08:15 AM
Quote from: Gusington on December 15, 2021, 09:05:43 PM
^Yup. I'm sure it is similar to other situations with a quiet majority who are (mostly) satisfied. Until a studio builds a better dreadnought game or GameLabs does something outright wrong, I'll be loyal.

GL isn't GL anymore. They're a Stillfront property, and this was discussed ad-nauseam when it was announced back in August. So by all means be loyal...

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Ultimately this is the issue with "early access". The buyer takes the risk that the dev will continue work until its done. Having worked in a small dev house (albeit not gaming software), I know that there a ton of things that can happen to interrupt, delay or even cancel development...even if the devs work in good faith. Getting acquired and having the new management change direction is one of them.

In some ways we, the gaming audience have brought these types of issues upon ourselves.

It used to be that we didn't need to care too much what happened to the dev house post-purchase.

In those days of yore, we roasted any development house that released an incomplete product (Stardock and "Elemental: War of Magic" in 2010 comes to mind). In those days (wow, only 11 years ago), we got more or less complete products with our initial purchase (usually there was some patching, but mostly tweaking). We even got a physical copy of the game to make us feel good. If the dev house went under or was acquired...that was sad, but we still had our game.

But there is no way to put the "early access" genie back in the bottle (and we wouldn't really want to).

So now I think the only thing we can do on a personal level is to just be careful about the early access games we buy into. Personally, I won't buy into a game unless it has a minimum level of functionality and is already highly playable. I also look for devs / publishers who give the buyers a price break for "taking the risk" of buying incomplete games. Also, I will only usually buy "early access" through Steam...only because if the game is really incoherent, I can get a refund.
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Jarhead0331

FYI - Rebind command keys option added in the latest v1.01 build.
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CaptainKoloth

There was actually a ton of new stuff in their latest update. I remain really impressed with the level of support on the game and how much fun it is to play already.

Rayfer

I've been on the fence with this one and you guys aren't making it any easier.  I need you to write up some bad stuff about it.   :-[

CaptainKoloth

Quote from: Rayfer on December 29, 2021, 03:25:34 PM
I've been on the fence with this one and you guys aren't making it any easier.  I need you to write up some bad stuff about it.   :-[

It doesn't have nuclear weapons. That's always a downside in my book.

Old TImer

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I'm less certain about these developers.  I purchased the early version of the game directly from the publisher.
Had a great time with it.  No regrets.  But trying to get a Steam key out of them has proven to be, shall we say,
challenging.  I ask for my Steam key.....they reply with a "this has been addressed, do you want to keep this
case open."  Hmmm, I say, nothing has been addressed......yes, keep the case open.  2 weeks later, "this has
been addressed etc etc.  Frustrating to say the least.  Would it make me less likely to support an early
access product from these publishers in the future?  Absolutely.  No way.  Their communication skills are
under-developed.

CaptainKoloth

Odd. I got my Steam key with no hassle whatsoever.

Gusington

That is odd. I got my Steam key a few weeks ago without asking as well. Must be an error in their system somewhere compounded by a mild language gap.

Besides the lack of nuclear weapons the fact that they are a small team makes their progress less than speedy. That's the worst thing I can think of at the moment, Rayfer, sorry.

And as the Captain mentions above I just had a chance to read the newest patch notes on Steam and there has been a ton of other tweaks and updates besides the key rebinding option, specifically implemented for SDR.



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Tripoli

Quote from: Gusington on December 29, 2021, 05:27:33 PM
That is odd. I got my Steam key a few weeks ago without asking as well. Must be an error in their system somewhere compounded by a mild language gap.

Besides the lack of nuclear weapons the fact that they are a small team makes their progress less than speedy. That's the worst thing I can think of at the moment, Rayfer, sorry.

And as the Captain mentions above I just had a chance to read the newest patch notes on Steam and there has been a ton of other tweaks and updates besides the key rebinding option, specifically implemented for SDR.

My experience is like Gus'.  I ordered from the developer, and received my Steam key within days of them going live on Steam with no problem.
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ArizonaTank

Quote from: Tripoli on December 29, 2021, 09:23:58 PM
Quote from: Gusington on December 29, 2021, 05:27:33 PM
That is odd. I got my Steam key a few weeks ago without asking as well. Must be an error in their system somewhere compounded by a mild language gap.

Besides the lack of nuclear weapons the fact that they are a small team makes their progress less than speedy. That's the worst thing I can think of at the moment, Rayfer, sorry.

And as the Captain mentions above I just had a chance to read the newest patch notes on Steam and there has been a ton of other tweaks and updates besides the key rebinding option, specifically implemented for SDR.

My experience is like Gus'.  I ordered from the developer, and received my Steam key within days of them going live on Steam with no problem.

Same here, no issues with getting key. It came by email.
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Rated as the 2nd most valuable player of all time by Bill James.

Silent Disapproval Robot

Has anyone been able to beat Mission #30 (Dreadnought vs Modern Cruisers)?  I've tried more than a dozen times with various builds but can't even get close to winning.  Best I've managed to do is sink 2 out of 4 of the enemy.  They either burn me down with superior long range gunfire and torpedoes if I design bare bones Dreadnoughts or they just use their speed to outpace me and run the clock out if I build fast battleships.


Gusington

It's been a while so I don't remember if it was that specific mission but I have had the AI run the clock out on me.
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tanqtonic

Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on January 24, 2022, 05:03:20 PM
Has anyone been able to beat Mission #30 (Dreadnought vs Modern Cruisers)?  I've tried more than a dozen times with various builds but can't even get close to winning.  Best I've managed to do is sink 2 out of 4 of the enemy.  They either burn me down with superior long range gunfire and torpedoes if I design bare bones Dreadnoughts or they just use their speed to outpace me and run the clock out if I build fast battleships.

I used the advanced tech option.   Get the most accurate longer range guns --- sometimes the diameters one or two bore widths smaller than the max have much, much, much better accuracy.   Since you are dealing with 2 BC, up armor your decks to make sure they have to come in a little closer than they would usually.

Your guns should be able to out duel the BCs at this range with accuracy.

Try and take out at least one BC at range, and the CAs will try to have to close to torpedo range.   When the CAs come in for torp shots, use your secondaries on them ----  your larger secondaries should be able to tag them.   If they get to torp range, always make a quick evasive turn or two to throw off a long range torp shot, and use that closed distance to take them out with full focus.

The key is getting the range accuracy advantage over the BCs, and when you wound them you slow them down.   Once you slow them to your speed, they are all yours since their main advantage has been negated.