Russia's War Against Ukraine

GDS_Starfury · January 18, 2023, 02:27:23 PM

its the swiss mostly with the germans using contract obligations as a deflection.
but it seems Europe is finally actually getting pissed off.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1615596606274822144

FarAway Sooner · January 18, 2023, 02:57:59 PM

I wish the NATO leadership on both sides of the Atlantic were leading public opinion on the armament of Ukraine, rather than following it.

bobarossa · January 18, 2023, 03:47:23 PM

Yeah, I couldn't find anything about the Swiss causing this. Switzerland did sell some of their surplus Leo's to Poland without guns in them.

Windigo · January 18, 2023, 03:50:28 PM

It was back in April that Switzerland block the use of their manufactured ammo for the Gepard in Ukraine. My bad confusing it with the Leo.

W8taminute · January 18, 2023, 04:18:03 PM

Star I heard about the sending of US ammo reserves stored in Israel to Ukraine. I'm not seeing anything on my go to news sites however, even though I know this happened. Strange...

GDS_Starfury · January 18, 2023, 07:43:37 PM

Im sure if it was Israeli made ammo there would be a lot of coverage.
but its not. its our own pre positioned stuff.

GDS_Starfury · January 18, 2023, 07:57:09 PM

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/10/germany-military-aid-ukraine-tanks-debate/671804/

Gusington · January 18, 2023, 08:28:25 PM

Israel has been adamant to stay as neutral as possible since the beginning of the war.

GDS_Starfury · January 18, 2023, 08:29:26 PM

theyre giving what they can in non lethal aid.

Gusington · January 18, 2023, 08:32:09 PM

^Quietly.

Gusington · January 18, 2023, 08:45:23 PM

Here is what W8 was talking about...U.S. ammo and weapons stored in Israel going to Ukraine:

https://nyti.ms/3IZ2XOl

W8taminute · January 18, 2023, 09:05:14 PM

^Thank you Gus. Good link.

I do feel some concern about moving ammo out of Israel even though it is not Israeli owned. I'm pretty sure our stockpile over there would come in very handy in the event Israel finds itself in another war.

GDS_Starfury · January 18, 2023, 09:42:34 PM

no ones fucking with Israel anytime soon.
at least not in a way that they need 300k arty shells.

Gusington · January 18, 2023, 10:05:29 PM

In the NYTimes article it mentioned the Israeli stockpile was placed there after the 1973 war. Not sure when the Korean one was established. I never even know that either existed.

JasonPratt · January 18, 2023, 10:07:28 PM

Quote from: GDS_Starfury on January 18, 2023, 09:42:34 PMno ones fucking with Israel anytime soon.
at least not in a way that they need 300k arty shells.

I have to assume from prior experience that Israel isn't going to handicap itself risking its own existence among its enemies, either: they'll send what they can spare, but setting themselves up for destruction won't help anyone anywhere (including nearby itself).