Israel

[Jarhead0331]

Do I recall correctly that radio intercepts about the parking lot crater outside the hospital earlier, indicated that the rockets had been fired from a mosque or its grounds nearby?

(I know I recall hearing the intercepts on something like that, the local Pal troops investigating the impact were complaining about putting the launchers there. But I can't recall if that was for the hospital 'strike' or something else. Could also have been fake intercepts, of course.)

They were fired from a cemetery near a mosque.

A cemetery, near a mosque, inside of a nursery, located adjacent to a playground, across the street from a soup kitchen.

[GDS_Starfury]

and crewed by 17 year olds

[steve58]

So, apparently Hamas let freelance 'photojournalists' be a part of their massacre party on Oct 7.  Photos were used by AP and Reuters.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/nov/8/ap-reuters-photographers-scene-hamas-attack-spurri/

[FarAway Sooner]

Hamas is pretty reprehensible, and Israel is not the only neighboring country that bears responsibility for the mess in Gaza right now.  From a purely practical standpoint, I do wonder what the next step is.

Groups like ISIS, Hamas, and the Taliban strike me as a more dangerous version of cockroaches.  You can take a wrecking ball to a place and kill a lot of them.  You can continue to spray and keep their numbers down.

But if, at the end of the day, you don't do enough to change the root causes of the problem, they'll just return whenever you're done.  And, if you didn't do a good job cleaning up the wreckage, it might be even harder to stop them next time.

Assuming that the Israelis are able to go in and largely eliminate Hamas as a functioning organization, I wonder what the next steps should be?

[W8taminute]

So, apparently Hamas let freelance 'photojournalists' be a part of their massacre party on Oct 7.  Photos were used by AP and Reuters.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/nov/8/ap-reuters-photographers-scene-hamas-attack-spurri/

I saw that too Steve.  It's quite disgusting but that just tells you that many people knew in advance that this was going to happen.  I don't believe in coincidences. 

I wonder what the next steps should be?

That's easy.  Israel has since day one trying to give the Palestinians a better life despite what absolute garbage you hear from MSM. 

It's the terror organizations and the abuse of their own people who don't want the truth to be told.  But little by little and day by day the truth is coming out on just how beastly these organizations are.  One Hamas leader was estimated to be worth 11 billion dollars and lives a life of luxury in a posh hotel 1800 km away from the suffering people in Gaza. 

Have you seen that speech in the UN by a Palestinian official who berates the UN for not intervening and getting rid of terror organizations like Hamas?  He even goes on to say that if it weren't for Israel and the jobs it provides that the Palestinians would be worse off than they are now. 

[steve58]

So, apparently Hamas let freelance 'photojournalists' be a part of their massacre party on Oct 7.  Photos were used by AP and Reuters.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/nov/8/ap-reuters-photographers-scene-hamas-attack-spurri/

I saw that too Steve.  It's quite disgusting but that just tells you that many people knew in advance that this was going to happen.  I don't believe in coincidences. 

Israel has said the so-call journalists will be added to their target lists. 

[GDS_Starfury]

Have you seen that speech in the UN by a Palestinian official who berates the UN for not intervening and getting rid of terror organizations like Hamas?  He even goes on to say that if it weren't for Israel and the jobs it provides that the Palestinians would be worse off than they are now. 

no but I would like to.  any links for it?

[GDS_Starfury]

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/israel-gaza-situation-report-hamas-lost-control-in-the-north-idf-says

[al_infierno]

West Bank medic takes a gun from a downed militant, then hands it to another militant who continues shooting.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that a war crime?

https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/17rff07/west_bank_medic_takes_weapon_from_downed_militant/

[Gusington]

How quickly did it take the interwebz to break into a frothing riot accusing the IDF of war crimes after that Hamas 'medic' was shot?

[W8taminute]

Have you seen that speech in the UN by a Palestinian official who berates the UN for not intervening and getting rid of terror organizations like Hamas?  He even goes on to say that if it weren't for Israel and the jobs it provides that the Palestinians would be worse off than they are now. 

no but I would like to.  any links for it?

Yup, right here

[GDS_Starfury]

its a case where theres no way that Israel is going to get in front of the information war.

[JasonPratt]

Hamas, like other armageddon-ish death cults, succeeds by success. That's a big reason why they, and other Muslim militant groups, shoot rockets at Israeli civilians whenever they think they can get away with it. It's one thing to kill and die for victory, though, and quite another to just die. They may get some recruits from Muslims wanting to die as a guarantee of being in their own personal heaven, and seeing a handy opportunity to do that (which is why British troops used to add pigs' blood to some of their rounds, to discourage that factor!) But if Hamas is being ground down they aren't winning, and that's a sign they aren't really chosen by God to be the ascendant champions of Islam.

Same thing happened with ISIS/ISIL: once it became obvious they were going to lose, they didn't get so many new recruits, and ceased to function at more than an occasional tactical level. Admittedly they were being more armageddon-ish in their overt approach than Hamas seems to be, claiming they were initiating the final fight against the Satans and that their coming victory would be a miraculous sign of God's approval for all Muslims to join their new caliphate.

Of course, there are other root problems to address, although Israel can't feasibly address one major root problem: malignantly tribal anti-Judaism. But making Hamas clearly lose, and lose big, will reduce Hamas' own recruitment drives, at least for a while.

[GDS_Starfury]

Ive been seeing a lot more Pali's blaming hummus for their woes now.

[Gusington]

I knew nothing about the Ireland/Palestinian connection.