Frankenstorm for Halloween??!!

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Martok

Quote from: TheCommandTent on October 31, 2012, 07:28:18 PM
Hey guy thanks for the concern.  I am at the inlaws right now they just got power this evening, they live in Newton NJ about 20mins from my wife and I.  We still don't have power at home and came to spend the night here since it is supposet to get down in the 30s tonight.  The power company says the power won't be on until maybe early next week.
That's a pain in the ass you won't have power back for another week, but I'm glad you and the missus are all right! 


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Did I hear the news correctly? Half of New York doesn't have power?

Saw a shot on TV at 10:00 with lines up to ten deep of people still trying to catch a bus to get to work. If this doesn't spark a revolution in telecommuting and flex time, I don't know what would. We already *ought* to be on that kind of schedule, but sometimes folks cling to the old ways for the sake of tradition. Hopefully they'll fix that soon. I cannot imagine the impact on lost productivity. It's going to be enormous.
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I find it strange, given NY had storms the last 2 years, that infrastructure has not been hardened to storms. It pretty plain there will be more most years going forward so what is the problem?
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Windigo

Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on November 01, 2012, 11:49:29 AM
I find it strange, given NY had storms the last 2 years, that infrastructure has not been hardened to storms. It pretty plain there will be more most years going forward so what is the problem?

you know what that costs?

Plus it was a shit load of saline/corrosive ocean water... next time they'll power down before the surge methinks
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Mr. Bigglesworth

One would think the 2 cities with the most sophisticated disaster response systems would be Tokyo and NY. I really expected, after all the hell that city had been through, to see a showcase of how its done.

It has a big population. Cost really shouldn't be an issue.
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Windigo

Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on November 01, 2012, 03:09:58 PM
One would think the 2 cities with the most sophisticated disaster response systems would be Tokyo and NY. I really expected, after all the hell that city had been through, to see a showcase of how its done.

It has a big population. Cost really shouldn't be an issue.


cost-benefit analysis be damned if the price tag for disaster proofing is too high for the typical short sighted taxpayer...
who wants to pay 100 bucks a year more in taxes for something that is a statistical 1-20?

why do people keep building on the east coast barrier islands?? really? why?

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Quote from: Windigo on November 01, 2012, 03:19:20 PMwhy do people keep building on the east coast barrier islands?? really? why?

1.  Those of us living in the interior don't want them moving in :P

2.  It wouldn't be so bad if they built homes that were desigend to withstand these strong storms.  I saw a saw talking about someone on the gulf coast that build a concrete house with curved walls after their stick built was destroyed in a storm.  Hasn't had to rebuild since then.  Just need to get people to spend a few more dollars up front and keep thinking they're going to get handouts later.
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LongBlade

Quote from: bayonetbrant on November 02, 2012, 06:34:57 AM
a slightly heartwarming moment...



Thanks. I like that. It says something positive about the human condition in adversity.
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bayonetbrant

Quote from: LongBlade on November 02, 2012, 07:19:48 AMIt says something positive about the human condition in adversity.

I got a charge out of it, too ;)
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Yskonyn

Quote from: bayonetbrant on November 02, 2012, 06:34:57 AM
a slightly heartwarming moment...



Good to see! A dear friend of ours was trying to get back across the big pond to Holland out of NY.
She isn't here yet, but at least she's ok.
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Quote from: Yskonyn on November 02, 2012, 10:41:45 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on November 02, 2012, 06:34:57 AM
a slightly heartwarming moment...



Good to see! A dear friend of ours was trying to get back across the big pond to Holland out of NY.
She isn't here yet, but at least she's ok.

Glad to know she's safe. It may take a few days, but she'll make it.
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Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

Mr. Bigglesworth

The BBC's Mike Wooldridge: "In some places frustration is now boiling over"


Fights broke out at petrol stations in New York and New Jersey, and power suppliers warned some areas might not have electricity until 11 November.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20177276


Situations like this allow companies that have not put money into maintenance to externalise costs to citizens. They could be sitting on >50 year old infrastructure that should have been fixed/upgraded long ago. Now they can say big bad storm destroyed everything give us x millions in bailout for all new construction. If you don't people will not get power. Or they get ductape fixed power until the next one.


There are times when the public interest trumps making a buck. That is a time for public companies.
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