40Cent @ the movies

MetalDog · November 13, 2012, 11:15:35 PM

Very sorry to hear that, SDR. I can't say that I really have great expectations for the film, but, it IS the first Bond movie I have wanted to see SINCE Goldeneye.

Airborne Rifles · November 13, 2012, 11:30:53 PM

I thought it was a blast, lots of nods to the classic bond movies and quips about some of the worst moments of recent ones. The end brought the whole genre full circle. I left feeling I got my money's worth.

Silent Disapproval Robot · November 13, 2012, 11:45:45 PM

I thought the references to the older Bond flicks came across as kind of cheap and manipulative. On the one hand, you've got Q going on about how gadgets are passe. This kind of falls in line with the whole "get back to classic Bond" meme that the producers are pushing, but then they turn around and throw the Bond stuff in your face, hoping you'll get all excited. "Wow! Even though you didn't hear him order it, Bond's having a shaken martini! That's so cool because Bond always has a shaken martini!" (except in this wilm when he starts chugging a Heineken. Hooray for product placement.)

"Ooh, Bond's got a Walther PPK! That's so cool because old Bond uses one of those too!" And what the hell was the deal with that thing anyway? What kind of spy agency arranges a drop off on the benches of the National Art Gallery in the middle of the day and hands over a sidearm in plain view? And why the hell does the thing have a row of LEDs just behind the rear sight? To ensure that your sight picture is completely screwed up? And what was that transmitter Q gave Bond? It looked like an accessory for a Cobra Commander GI JOE doll.

The whole Austin Martin thing was just kind of sad. It was almost like a Bond product placement in a Bond movie. Not as blatant as the Heineken, but close.

MikeGER · November 14, 2012, 03:58:38 AM

Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on November 13, 2012, 11:45:45 PM
I And why the hell does the thing have a row of LEDs just behind the rear sight? To ensure that your sight picture is completely screwed up?

in the fluff of the movie the gun had a 'fingerprint trigger' or 'ball of hand'-sensor build in to unlock
(which was later used in the plot.... like all the Bond toys in their according movies)
so i guess the set-designers thought 'red = still locked'

in older movies the transmitter would have been build in a Zippo, but because Bond doesn't smoke ( anymore? did he smoke in old movies? when was the last? i cant remember yet) its was really kind of toyish

Bond girls (mmmh, i brought my one (sorry, no pictures in public;))
well, there are so many beautifully girls, milfs, ladies, etc in the media allover the place, starting with news weather, adds, series, movies,... IMHO a Bond Girl (like Sévérine) today has to be separate in a more classy way and dangerous in many ways.
...like these 37 old from Tampa staring as a hangaround for Petraeus and Allen

sorry to hear you couldn't enjoy the pop corn movie (not a Oscar masterpiece ... just one of the better Bonds)

undercovergeek · November 14, 2012, 05:18:34 AM

I'm kind of with SDR.... I agree with everything he's noted but on the other hand I don't care.... I want 2 hours of switch off entertainment without having to worry about the message, the undertone, what the director wants me to think so I tune out and watch.

The one thing that puzzles me, and it was all over the UK press was the twist at the end..... All through the film I'm waiting for sean bean or a new blofeld to turn up, but nothing, was moneypenny and M really the big surprise?? That's what left me disappointed, unlike the fools on bond sites who are saying M was clearly the mother of bond or the baddy... Take your pick

Centurion40 · November 14, 2012, 09:18:54 AM

Apart from liking Bardem's bad guy (I thought that he was duly creepy, yet a different kind of creepy than he was in "No Country for Old Men"), I echo SDR's comments. I found it almost painful to watch, and somewhat predictable, especially the pivotal plot twists. A woman sitting next to me actually fell asleep and was snoring, this movie was so long and dragged out.

I guy I work with told me "this was the best James Bond movie ever!"; he liked the character development of James Bond. I had to agree with him, as far as character development goes, this movie was 'excellent'. But who goes to a James Bond movie to see character development??!! Character development is plodding and dragged-out! For my money, this was one of the worst James Bond movie ever. I'll be fine if I never see it again.

23 out of 40

Airborne Rifles · November 14, 2012, 09:45:09 AM

I guess I go the movies to escape from reality so plot holes and inconsistancies don't bother me that much. I'm also not one for catching small details so I didn't notice the product placement. I appreciated all the old Bond details being in your face so I would actually notice and enjoy them, instead of being tucked away where my dense movie-going intellect would miss them ;)

Airborne Rifles · November 14, 2012, 10:10:38 AM

Maybe I'm stating the obvious here, but I thought M was the Bond girl for this movie?

Centurion40 · November 14, 2012, 10:13:11 AM

Hence a portion of my disappoint in this film. It deviates from the canon.

Silent Disapproval Robot · November 14, 2012, 12:05:07 PM

Quote from: Airborne Rifles on November 14, 2012, 10:10:38 AM
Maybe I'm stating the obvious here, but I thought M was the Bond girl for this movie?

Thank God they didn't put her in Ursula's bikini and have her walk out of the ocean then.

Then again, the emo/Goth makeup on the 1/2 Asian chick made her look about as appealing as M in a bikini.

Centurion40 · November 14, 2012, 12:38:05 PM

Yeah, this one was really weak on the sexy girl front.

undercovergeek · November 14, 2012, 01:10:44 PM

As much as with the cgi and helicopter back packs I think they've dialled down the ladies too.... Reading in the times over here this is the first bond the ladies can dig... All moody, tortured and a six pack and it doesn't strike well with the lady viewers if the sexy women just fall at his feet because he's made some lame ass 70s double entendre and he had a proper love interest in casino royale.

Silent Disapproval Robot · November 14, 2012, 03:21:36 PM

Quote from: Centurion40 on November 14, 2012, 09:18:54 AM
...For my money, this was one of the worst James Bond movie ever. I'll be fine if I never see it again.

23 out of 40

I'd throw it in the lower end of the middle of the pack, but it's not as bad as some of the real stinkers. For me, the worst of the series are:

Die Another Day

A View to a Kill

Moonraker

Diamonds are Forever

Tomorrow Never Dies

Steelgrave · November 14, 2012, 08:34:29 PM

Eh, my wife and I just saw it and we both enjoyed it quite a bit. It could stand to have about 20 minutes trimmed off, but overall I give it high marks. And it may be heresy, but I love Craig as Bond. He's a guy that looks like he really could mess up someone's day, and the action scenes with Craig are right on the money.

Of course, now that I got to see Skyfall, I'm obligated to take the wife to see Breaking Dawn pt. 2 next week. Pray for me, boys.

Windigo · November 14, 2012, 08:35:52 PM

Quote from: Steelgrave on November 14, 2012, 08:34:29 PM
Eh, my wife and I just saw it and we both enjoyed it quite a bit. It could stand to have about 20 minutes trimmed off, but overall I give it high marks. And it may be heresy, but I love Craig as Bond. He's a guy that looks like he really could mess up someone's day, and the action scenes with Craig are right on the money.

Of course, now that I got to see Skyfall, I'm obligated to take the wife to see Breaking Dawn pt. 2 next week. Pray for me, boys.

I didn't need to hear that.....

but if it gets you laid, who (whom?) am I to judge such sacrifice