Heroes of Normandie trailer...love it.

[panzerde]

Looks exactly like what it is - a tablet game. Probably fine if you are looking for that sort of thing. Of everything announced this week from Matrix/Slitherine, this is the least interesting to me. Not uptight, just not interested in this style of game, regardless of the mechanics.

[TacticalWargames]

But isn't it mechanics that make a game? Now if the game is too dumbed down I won't be interested either, but if it stands upwell to other serious looking tactical wargames I'm in.

[mikeck]

Looks ridiculous.  Why not just throw in Captain America and Red Skull while they're at it?

This. Way too cartoony for me. To each his own

[panzerde]

But isn't it mechanics that make a game? Now if the game is too dumbed down I won't be interested either, but if it stands upwell to other serious looking tactical wargames I'm in.

I think there a re a lot of discussions in this very forum about games that have sub-par mechanics (check out the WiTPAE discussion) that nonetheless engage people for years. So it probably isn't all or always the case that the mechanics of the game are the most important thing. I'll almost certainly pick up the new Thirty Years War game Matix announced even though it uses the Battle Academy engine, which I don't care for much at all because of the subject matter and because there really isn't anything else around.

I think game mechanics are paramount if what you're primarily interested in is gaming - and there's 100% nothing wrong with that. Others may be primarily interested in other things. Recreating and learning about an event in military history is probably my biggest motivator, for example, with many of the games I play.  Obviously, in the case of something like X-Rebirth that isn't the case and there other factors come into play, like the UI and the gameplay mechanics and how immersive it is in creating the feeling of being in a space opera. There are plenty of other people who want other forms of the much sought after "immersion" and either laud or hate games for very different reason beyond game mechanics. I recently read a post by someone who claimed that they wouldn't buy Combat Mission Red Thunder because the Soviet uniforms were too green and Battlefront didn't make the Soviet icons red, and those two thing "ruined the immersion" for him.

That might seem silly to you or I, but clearly that player is in this for something other than the gameplay mechanic.

Now, on top of that this game looks to be primarily a tablet game ported to PC. Cartoon graphics aside I'm skeptical about the mechanics of a tablet-first game coming anywhere close to the other games on this subject I play. I might very well be wrong about that but it's enough to make me let other people take the risk of trying it first.

[Boggit]

From what I saw of it, and what I remember of my conversations with the developer it is intended to be spiritually lighthearted, but there is also some serious depth to the game, that doesn't emerge from the pictures, nor the description. IIRC correctly the developer has spent many years working on the game concept, so all I'd say at this stage is look carefully at any previews coming out before writing the game off as too lightweight for your taste. I must admit, it was an impression I initially had, and although I've seen a short presentation on it. I think it deserves a deeper look to really see how I feel about its pitch. One thing mentioned to me was its moddability, and flexibility, both of which are attractive features.

[Boggit]

But isn't it mechanics that make a game? Now if the game is too dumbed down I won't be interested either, but if it stands upwell to other serious looking tactical wargames I'm in.

I'll almost certainly pick up the new Thirty Years War game Matix announced even though it uses the Battle Academy engine, which I don't care for much at all because of the subject matter and because there really isn't anything else around.

Pike and Shot is such a cool game. I just loved it. 8) It's not a Thirty Years War game per se, it's a platform allowing the battles of other wars to be developed on it too. Thirty Years wars is the starting module, but other modules are in the process of being implemented, which you'll find very exciting too. If you are anything like me, you are going to be very happy gamers. :) I don't want to say too much at this stage because Brant, and Gus may want me to present stuff to you guys in a slightly different way.

So really all I'll say for now is that Pike and Shot is really cool, and from what I saw really great stuff. But it is just the icing on the cake, there will be much more to get stuck into. It is one of several upcoming releases that personally I am really, really - did I say REALLY ? - excited about. 8)

[BanzaiCat]

Looks exactly like what it is - a tablet game. Probably fine if you are looking for that sort of thing. Of everything announced this week from Matrix/Slitherine, this is the least interesting to me. Not uptight, just not interested in this style of game, regardless of the mechanics.

Pretty much. I mean, I enjoy very Grog-y games with tons of fiddlyness, but I also like the occasional light/no-brainer game. This falls more into the latter category. It might be worth some play on my end, if the price is right. And if it's not, I can wait until it is.

[Nefaro]

Pike and Shot is such a cool game. I just loved it. 8) It's not a Thirty Years War game per se, it's a platform allowing the battles of other wars to be developed on it too. Thirty Years wars is the starting module, but other modules are in the process of being implemented, which you'll find very exciting too. If you are anything like me, you are going to be very happy gamers. :) I don't want to say too much at this stage because Brant, and Gus may want me to present stuff to you guys in a slightly different way.

So really all I'll say for now is that Pike and Shot is really cool, and from what I saw really great stuff. But it is just the icing on the cake, there will be much more to get stuck into. It is one of several upcoming releases that personally I am really, really - did I say REALLY ? - excited about. 8)

Wow.  More stuff from other pre-20th century periods, I hope.  Well..... anything but WW2. 

My interest has been further piqued.

[SgtRock]

Well the Germans do look pretty goofy, but, it does look interesting, hope there's a demo!