Fallen Enchantress: Legendary Heroes

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Boggit

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June 04, 2014, 04:11:00 PM Last Edit: June 04, 2014, 04:14:50 PM by Boggit
Quote from: mikeck on June 04, 2014, 07:02:42 AM
The game never clicked with me but I have to disagree with Boggit: following enchantress is far more deep and complex then warlock. There are far more things you can do including personally creating your own units and choosing their upgrades. Battles are tactical requiring you to choose positioning and when you want to use certain spells and such. Having played warlock I find it to be more like Panzer general or you're just moving guys around.  enchantress is a very complex game it just never clicked with me
You make a fair point. I'm mainly going on impression. I'd just got the sense that there was more going for Warlock in many ways, but as you say you can do lots of things in FE that you can't do in Warlock. Still haven't found any ships though... ;) Don't get me wrong, I do like FE:LH and it is very moddable in game, but Warlock does at least have ships, and sea monsters! :-)
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Tuna

#16
June 04, 2014, 05:43:01 PM
I think the first ship I got.. I found.. the next one, I think I made, but can't remember.. lol.. I'll have to open an old save if I can find one and to screenshot.. I couldn't get it to battle other ships (nothing would happen).. but I was able to transport armies.. only thing is, you could only land them at beaches... most of the land you cannot land from with the high coastlines.. Maybe only certain races can create them?

SgtRock

#17
June 04, 2014, 07:21:38 PM
I don't think I've ever gotten the bad taste out of my mouth from the first Elemental game to enjoy this one or any of the others. FE: LH is a better game but, some where it seems it lost something, too many things got removed from the original Elemental.

Martok

#18
June 05, 2014, 04:25:17 AM
Quote from: Tuna on June 04, 2014, 05:43:01 PM
I think the first ship I got.. I found.. the next one, I think I made, but can't remember.. lol.. I'll have to open an old save if I can find one and to screenshot.. I couldn't get it to battle other ships (nothing would happen).. but I was able to transport armies..
So naval units move armies around, but they can't fight each other?  Huh. 



Quote from: Tuna on June 04, 2014, 05:43:01 PMonly thing is, you could only land them at beaches... most of the land you cannot land from with the high coastlines..
Well that's consistent with other strategy games (such as the Civilization and Total War series), and it makes a certain amount of sense in any case.  Generally speaking, I imagine you'd want to be able to land troops where they could disembark easily. 



Quote from: Tuna on June 04, 2014, 05:43:01 PM
Maybe only certain races can create them?
I doubt it, unless it's perhaps restricted to just the Men (Kingdoms) or the Fallen (Empires).  The ability to transport armies across water would be too potentially unbalancing to bestow it upon only 2-3 factions. 

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Martok

#19
June 05, 2014, 04:26:54 AM
Quote from: SgtRock on June 04, 2014, 07:21:38 PM
I don't think I've ever gotten the bad taste out of my mouth from the first Elemental game to enjoy this one or any of the others. FE: LH is a better game but, some where it seems it lost something, too many things got removed from the original Elemental.
And *that* is why -- among other reasons -- I'm glad I never played the original one! 

"Like we need an excuse to drink to anything..." - Banzai_Cat
"I like to think of it not as an excuse but more like Pavlovian Response." - Sir Slash

"At our ages, they all look like jailbait." - mirth

"If we had lines here that would have crossed all of them. For the 1,077,986th time." - Gusington

"Government is so expensive that it should at least be entertaining." - airboy

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Yskonyn

#20
June 05, 2014, 12:37:06 PM
I am almost sure there are no ships in FE at all.
At one time in the Elemental development cycle  were ships, but as mentioned before they were removed.

If you do find ships in FE I would love to see some screenshots and get to know where and how. :)
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However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore."

Boggit

#21
June 05, 2014, 02:32:38 PM
Quote from: Yskonyn on June 05, 2014, 12:37:06 PM
I am almost sure there are no ships in FE at all.
At one time in the Elemental development cycle  were ships, but as mentioned before they were removed.

If you do find ships in FE I would love to see some screenshots and get to know where and how. :)
I've got a game going at the moment. I haven't seen any, but if I do I'll shout! I'm playing the Urxen atm. I played Altar in my last game, but didn't see any ships. I think I'll try walking a unit into the sea, to see (if you'll excuse the pun) whether they create a transport.
The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own. Aldous Huxley

Foul Temptress! (Mirth replying to Gus) ;)

On a good day, our legislature has the prestige of a drunk urinating on a wall at 4am and getting most of it on his shoe. On a good day  ::) Steelgrave

It's kind of silly to investigate whether or not a Clinton is lying. That's sort of like investigating why the sky is blue. Banzai_Cat

Tuna

#22
June 05, 2014, 02:59:17 PM
found an old save where I had ships.. game before current game.. I think I 'found' them.. in like dock style ruins.. I don't think I could create new ones.. I also couldn't attack an enemy transport.. I wonder if you needed to have units on both to do that.. You can see that I have an Army loaded.

Boggit

#23
June 05, 2014, 03:36:10 PM
Well that's really good. Now I don't need to be trapped on a spit of land! The issue is now how to get them working? Thanks for that Tuna, good progress is being made here. :)
The most shocking fact about war is that its victims and its instruments are individual human beings, and that these individual beings are condemned by the monstrous conventions of politics to murder or be murdered in quarrels not their own. Aldous Huxley

Foul Temptress! (Mirth replying to Gus) ;)

On a good day, our legislature has the prestige of a drunk urinating on a wall at 4am and getting most of it on his shoe. On a good day  ::) Steelgrave

It's kind of silly to investigate whether or not a Clinton is lying. That's sort of like investigating why the sky is blue. Banzai_Cat

Steelgrave

#24
June 05, 2014, 03:59:15 PM
The game is on sale this weekend on Steam for $9.99. The rest of the Stardock titles are on sale as well. It amused me to look at the sale and realize I own almost all of the games already.   :o

Tuna

#25
June 05, 2014, 04:16:51 PM
I was trying to search forums for info.. sounds like in the beginning they had no ships at all.. I think they were having trouble getting the AI to use them properly.. So I may have gotten them by quest, cause I definitely couldn't build more.. I wonder if you had a town near a beach and could build a dock, if you could then build ships.. There aren't a 'ton' of beaches.. But they are there..

Tuna

#26
June 05, 2014, 04:17:41 PM
The game is definitely worth 10 bucks!.. I've gotten some good playing time out of it!  O0

Martok

#27
June 05, 2014, 05:53:58 PM
That's fascinating, Tuna!  I congratulate you on coming across something in the game that I have not.  (Of course, I've hardly played FE:LH exhaustively, so I shouldn't talk. ::) ) 





Quote from: Steelgrave on June 05, 2014, 03:59:15 PM
The game is on sale this weekend on Steam for $9.99.
Nice.  I know a few folks who could use a copy.  8) 

"Like we need an excuse to drink to anything..." - Banzai_Cat
"I like to think of it not as an excuse but more like Pavlovian Response." - Sir Slash

"At our ages, they all look like jailbait." - mirth

"If we had lines here that would have crossed all of them. For the 1,077,986th time." - Gusington

"Government is so expensive that it should at least be entertaining." - airboy

"As long as there's bacon, everything will be all right." - Toonces

Yskonyn

#28
June 06, 2014, 08:28:28 AM
Quote from: Martok on June 05, 2014, 05:53:58 PM
That's fascinating, Tuna!  I congratulate you on coming across something in the game that I have not.  (Of course, I've hardly played FE:LH exhaustively, so I shouldn't talk. ::) ) 




+1, although I have played FE quite a lot. :) Never came across ships, though and remembered from the Stardock forums they had been removed. A nice find! It's good to see they are in afterall... somewhat. ;) Like a prestige object!
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However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore."

Shelldrake

#29
June 06, 2014, 12:39:32 PM
Steam notified me last night that Gus was playing FELH. Another one succumbs to temptation! ;)
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