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Staggerwing

A little background on the the possible reason preponderance of French nationals among the foreign fighters in ISIL:

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4120/islamization-france

It sounds like France is fast approaching a civil tipping point as far as the battle of French law vs Sharia law. No wonder so many radicalized French Muslims are so eager to hone their organizational battle skills. They may be facing the National Gendarmerie in the near future.

One wonders if the French gov't will eventually bring home some units of the Légion étrangère for any heavy 'police work' involving MOUT so as to keep the regular army and National Gendarmerie out of any truly rough action so the latter two can continue to operate with less resulting controversy. Also, the regular army has a large number of Muslim soldiers so the French gov't may worry about some of those soldiers being willing to act against co-religionists.

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Centurion40

Quote from: Staggerwing on September 29, 2014, 06:57:01 AM
A little background on the the possible reason preponderance of French nationals among the foreign fighters in ISIL:

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4120/islamization-france

It sounds like France is fast approaching a civil tipping point as far as the battle of French law vs Sharia law. No wonder so many radicalized French Muslims are so eager to hone their organizational battle skills. They may be facing the National Gendarmerie in the near future.

One wonders if the French gov't will eventually bring home some units of the Légion étrangère for any heavy 'police work' involving MOUT so as to keep the regular army and National Gendarmerie out of any truly rough action so the latter two can continue to operate with less resulting controversy. Also, the regular army has a large number of Muslim soldiers so the French gov't may worry about some of those soldiers being willing to act against co-religionists.

Yeah, very disturbing.  If France implodes, NATO may be pre-occupied enough so that Putin can push into the Baltic without a NATO military response.
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bayonetbrant

Don't they all just look like 'tires' to you?
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pawelj

Quote from: Centurion40 on September 30, 2014, 01:39:58 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on September 29, 2014, 06:57:01 AM
A little background on the the possible reason preponderance of French nationals among the foreign fighters in ISIL:

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4120/islamization-france

It sounds like France is fast approaching a civil tipping point as far as the battle of French law vs Sharia law. No wonder so many radicalized French Muslims are so eager to hone their organizational battle skills. They may be facing the National Gendarmerie in the near future.

One wonders if the French gov't will eventually bring home some units of the Légion étrangère for any heavy 'police work' involving MOUT so as to keep the regular army and National Gendarmerie out of any truly rough action so the latter two can continue to operate with less resulting controversy. Also, the regular army has a large number of Muslim soldiers so the French gov't may worry about some of those soldiers being willing to act against co-religionists.

Yeah, very disturbing.  If France implodes, NATO may be pre-occupied enough so that Putin can push into the Baltic without a NATO military response.
France is not going to implode. It has more Muslims than other countries in Europe, so proportionally its not that much of a difference. No need to panic.
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GDS_Starfury

theres only so much couscous and hummus French chefs will put up with.
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Mr. Bigglesworth

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GDS_Starfury

off the top of my head I'll say that those numbers are a bit wrong.
the Hellfire doesnt cost that much these days and an F-22 is more expensive per flight hour then a B-1.
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Banzai Cat - There is no "partial credit" in grammar. Like anal sex. It's either in, or it's not.

Mirth - We learned long ago that they key isn't to outrun Star, it's to outrun Gus.

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Mr. Bigglesworth

Wow.

F-22 had a mission capable rate of 62% in 2004, 70% in 2009, and was predicted to reach 85% as the fleet reached 100,000 flight hours.[64][192] Early on, the F-22 required more than 30 hours of maintenance per flight hour and a total cost per flight hour of $44,000; by 2008 it was reduced to 18.1, and 10.5 by 2009; lower than the Pentagon's requirement of 12 maintenance hours per flight hour.[193] When introduced, the F-22 had a Mean Time Between Maintenance (MTBM) of 1.7 hours, short of the required 3.0 hours, but the figure was improved to 3.2 hours in 2012.[64] By 2013, the cost per flight hour had grown to $68,362, over three times as much as the F-16.[194]

With upgrades to keep the B-1 viable, the air force may keep the bomber in service until approximately 2038.[128] Despite upgrades, the B-1 has repair and cost issues resulting from its age. For every flight hour it needs 48.4 hours of repair. The fuel, repairs and other needs for a 12-hour mission costs $720,000 as of 2010.[129] The $63,000 cost per flight hour is, however, less than the $72,000 for the B-52 and the $135,000 of the B-2.[130]

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"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; "
- Shakespeare's Henry V, Act III, 1598

Gusington



слава Україна!

We can't live under the threat of a c*nt because he's threatening nuclear Armageddon.

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GDS_Starfury

Jarhead - Yeah. You're probably right.

Gus - I use sweatpants with flannel shorts to soak up my crotch sweat.

Banzai Cat - There is no "partial credit" in grammar. Like anal sex. It's either in, or it's not.

Mirth - We learned long ago that they key isn't to outrun Star, it's to outrun Gus.

Martok - I don't know if it's possible to have an "anti-boner"...but I now have one.

Gus - Celery is vile and has no reason to exist. Like underwear on Star.


Gusington

Saw that earlier...I would laugh if it wasn't so sad.


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Mr. Bigglesworth

Quote from: GDS_Starfury on October 08, 2014, 02:16:44 PM
you know you fucked up when even Carter calls you out.   :2funny:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/carter-obama-waited-too-long-to-fight-isis/ar-BB89WXW

I dont know why everyone wants to pretend Carter was a wuss, he put his life on the line with no problem in the navy. He can say he did his duty. How many of these other guys, whose main claim to fame was looking good on camera, can claim the same thing?
"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; "
- Shakespeare's Henry V, Act III, 1598

GDS_Starfury

As POTUS his foreign policy was horrible and thats what I'm commenting about.
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Gus - I use sweatpants with flannel shorts to soak up my crotch sweat.

Banzai Cat - There is no "partial credit" in grammar. Like anal sex. It's either in, or it's not.

Mirth - We learned long ago that they key isn't to outrun Star, it's to outrun Gus.

Martok - I don't know if it's possible to have an "anti-boner"...but I now have one.

Gus - Celery is vile and has no reason to exist. Like underwear on Star.