We Are Surrounded By Idiots

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Mr. Bigglesworth

Quote from: LongBlade on September 24, 2014, 07:16:00 AM
QuoteAccording to Weekly Standard writer and Fox News contributor Stephen Hayes, he himself has been placed on the Department of Homeland Security's terrorist watch list. Hayes told his Twitter followers about this development Tuesday:

source: http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/23/stephen-hayes-fox-news-contributor-and-weekly-standard-writer-is-on-the-terrorist-watch-list/

Maybe rebrand it terror entertainment.
"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; "
- Shakespeare's Henry V, Act III, 1598

bayonetbrant

Quote from: LongBlade on September 24, 2014, 07:16:00 AM
QuoteAccording to Weekly Standard writer and Fox News contributor Stephen Hayes, he himself has been placed on the Department of Homeland Security’s terrorist watch list. Hayes told his Twitter followers about this development Tuesday:

source: http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/23/stephen-hayes-fox-news-contributor-and-weekly-standard-writer-is-on-the-terrorist-watch-list/

Dear TSA:
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LongBlade

One wonders who else is on these lists and doesn't even know about it, and can do nothing to be removed?
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

Barthheart

Quote from: LongBlade on September 24, 2014, 11:14:09 AM
One wonders who else is on these lists and doesn't even know about it, and can do nothing to be removed?

How would one go about finding out if they are on the List?

LongBlade

Quote from: Barthheart on September 24, 2014, 11:17:04 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on September 24, 2014, 11:14:09 AM
One wonders who else is on these lists and doesn't even know about it, and can do nothing to be removed?

How would one go about finding out if they are on the List?

As I understand it there are multiple lists.

In Hayes' case the airlines told him.

In most cases I don't think you ever know. It's a real star chamber...staffed by government bureaucrats.

Nothing could go wrong there.
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

LongBlade

All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

Labbug

Mr. Hayes had a short interview on WLS radio this morning.  He said he thought he might have gotten on the terrorist watch list because he had gotten a one way airline ticket to Turkey within the last couple of months.  He did talk to the TSA and asked how he could get off the list.  I think (if I am remembering the interview correctly) they told him to go to their website and fill out some forms and submit them.  He filled out the forms, but at end the form it said he needed to submit his passport to them.  At the time of the radio interview he did not know if he needed to mail his passport in or take it into a TSA office along with his forms.


LongBlade

Quote from: Labbug on September 24, 2014, 02:45:08 PM
Mr. Hayes had a short interview on WLS radio this morning.  He said he thought he might have gotten on the terrorist watch list because he had gotten a one way airline ticket to Turkey within the last couple of months.  He did talk to the TSA and asked how he could get off the list.  I think (if I am remembering the interview correctly) they told him to go to their website and fill out some forms and submit them.  He filled out the forms, but at end the form it said he needed to submit his passport to them.  At the time of the radio interview he did not know if he needed to mail his passport in or take it into a TSA office along with his forms.

I heard that story, too. Funny how the process breaks at the end.

Meanwhile, the ACLU estimates about a million Americans are on some kind of list: https://www.aclu.org/technology-and-liberty/watch-lists

That number is likely conservative.
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

Mr. Bigglesworth

Probably the whole world is on the list. It's the excuse for taking everyone's data.
"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; "
- Shakespeare's Henry V, Act III, 1598

LongBlade

You might be right.

The problem is the bigger the data set, the more confused it gets. I'm still waiting to hear the first example of success from all these programs. Best I can tell, all it does is undermine the Constitution and bankrupt the nation.
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

Mr. Bigglesworth

"Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; "
- Shakespeare's Henry V, Act III, 1598